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Volans - Jun 06, 2005 8:22:12 pm PDT #3800 of 10002
move out and draw fire

( continues...) Skywalker. After an exhausting fight, Vader is poised to finish Luke off, but he stays his hand. He tries to convert Luke to the Dark Side with this simple plea: "There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you. . . . Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy." It is here we find the real controlling impulse for the Dark Side and the Empire. The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order.

None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In Episode IV, Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors.

The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true.

But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth. In Episode IV, every bit of information she gives the Empire is willfully untrue. In the opening, she tells Darth Vader that she is on a diplomatic mission of mercy, when in fact she is on a spy mission, trying to deliver schematics of the Death Star to the Rebel Alliance. When asked where the Alliance is headquartered, she lies again.

Leia's lies are perfectly defensible--she thinks she's serving the greater good--but they make her wholly unreliable on the question of whether or not Alderaan really is peaceful and defenseless. If anything, since Leia is a high-ranking member of the rebellion and the princess of Alderaan, it would be reasonable to suspect that Alderaan is a front for Rebel activity or at least home to many more spies and insurgents like Leia.

Whatever the case, the important thing to recognize is that the Empire is not committing random acts of terror. It is engaged in a fight for the survival of its regime against a violent group of rebels who are committed to its destruction.

III. After the Rebellion

As we all know from the final Star Wars installment, "Return of the Jedi," the rebellion is eventually successful. The Emperor is assassinated, Darth Vader abdicates his post and dies, the central governing apparatus of the Empire is destroyed in a spectacular space battle, and the rebels rejoice with their small, annoying Ewok friends. But what happens next?

(There is a raft of literature on this point, but, as I said at the beginning, I'm going to ignore it because it doesn't speak to Lucas's original intent.)

In Episode IV, after Grand Moff Tarkin announces that the Imperial Senate has been abolished, he's asked how the Emperor can possibly hope to keep control of the galaxy. "The regional governors now have direct control over territories," he says. "Fear will keep the local systems in line."

So under Imperial rule, a large group of regional potentates, each with access to a sizable army and star destroyers, runs local affairs. These governors owe their fealty to the Emperor. And once the Emperor is dead, the galaxy will be plunged into chaos.

In all of the time we spend observing the Rebel Alliance, we never hear of their governing strategy or their plans for a post-Imperial universe. All we see are plots and fighting. Their victory over the Empire doesn't liberate the galaxy--it turns the galaxy into Somalia writ large: dominated by local warlords who are answerable to no one.

Which makes the rebels--Lucas's heroes--an unimpressive crew of anarchic royals who wreck the galaxy so that Princess Leia can have her tiara back.

I'll take (continued...)


Volans - Jun 06, 2005 8:22:15 pm PDT #3801 of 10002
move out and draw fire

( continues...) the Empire.

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Ailleann - Jun 07, 2005 3:47:11 am PDT #3802 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

blinks

It's early, and I'll probably need to read that a few more times, but the first thing I can think of is this:

In the movies, the reason the Republic becomes so bogged down and slow is because of contrary intent between two factions. The pro-Republic side, led by Chancellor Palpatine, and the Separatists... manipulated by Darth Sidious. Who happen to both be the same person. Who also happens to be "evil" and power-hungry.

I don't think there's any clues, either from the movies or any outside canon, that if Palpatine/Sidious had not been involved with the governing of the Republic it would have suffered the same fate.

Also, if the Republican party wants to identify with the Empire during the next campaign, I hope they're ready for a lot of people to go "bwuh?"


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 07, 2005 5:01:30 am PDT #3803 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Does this mean that the Bush twins have psychic powers and will become anarchist freedom fighters once the hangovers wear off?


Jon B. - Jun 07, 2005 5:07:44 am PDT #3804 of 10002
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That article is on their website here: [link]

(in case anyone thought it was a hoax)


sumi - Jun 07, 2005 7:03:42 am PDT #3805 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Paramount pulls plug on Watchman movie.


Gandalfe - Jun 07, 2005 7:06:53 am PDT #3806 of 10002
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Paramount pulls plug on Watchman movie.

Damnit!


Jessica - Jun 07, 2005 7:07:29 am PDT #3807 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Given the current track record for adapting Alan Moore comics to film, I can't say I'm too upset.


Steph L. - Jun 07, 2005 7:10:51 am PDT #3808 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Make no mistake, as emperor, Palpatine is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like Pinochet.

Well, any credibility the author might have had with me just went out the window when he called Augusto Pinochet "relatively benign." Because that's....well, that's fucking insane.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2005 7:11:03 am PDT #3809 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

V For Vendetta could tip the scale.