What if the last 2 minutes of 2001 hadn't happened? Because, that's the only part where we're-all-connected hoodoo predominates, in my mind. Cut that, and you've got a beautiful, massively inefficient, austere version of Cabin Fever going on.
Doesn't matter that we took him off that boat, Shepherd, it's the place he's going to live from now on.
Mal ,'Bushwhacked'
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Nutty - Jun 06, 2005 5:35:44 am PDT #3773 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 06, 2005 5:36:22 am PDT #3774 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It's been years since I saw it, but the loneliness of space was always the foremost emotional hit for me.
Volans - Jun 06, 2005 5:42:34 am PDT #3775 of 10002
move out and draw fire
And HAL really puts it in this category.
tommyrot - Jun 06, 2005 5:54:16 am PDT #3776 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I prefer the ending of the novel, where the Space Baby comes back to Earth and starts a nuclear war just for the hell of it.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 06, 2005 6:12:47 am PDT #3777 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Wow, totally did not recall that part. Now I'm wondering if I ever actually read the original rather than just its sequels.
tommyrot - Jun 06, 2005 6:17:31 am PDT #3778 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
It was at the very end. Just a few sentences, IIRC. But it was a nice parallel to the beginning, when after the aliens improved the intelligence of the proto-humans, they begin to use their new intelligence to murder ....
Mr. Broom - Jun 06, 2005 6:59:55 am PDT #3779 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Dear GOD. Me, as a non-historian, felt that for a story, wodges could have been left out, and I'd have liked it more. I have no interest in a Howard Hughes documentary.
Mostly I just meant very important facts not mentioned at all, like that for the first two years of Hughes' life that the film portrays he was married. I know it's trying to focus on the throughline of aviation as his great love, but shouldn't his first wife merit a footnote?
Frankenbuddha - Jun 06, 2005 7:02:20 am PDT #3780 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Also, the fairly early cheapie Dark Star does a good job of evoking the mindfuck of staring into the black (in a black humored way).
Heh, love this movie. Best alien ever. Interestingly, one of the co-writers and actors was Dan O'Bannon (his character had all the interaction with the alien), who went on to co-write the original script that became Alien (though that was extensively re-worked by Walter Hill).
Frankenbuddha - Jun 06, 2005 7:05:18 am PDT #3781 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Also, does it need to be movies? Because a couple of the Firefly episodes really made that point - Bushwhacked, Our Mrs. Reynolds (for the ending), and Out of Gas being the main ones, but the first reavers sequence in the original Serenity gets some of that too.
Of course, they'll be a real movie for that soon, but probably not soon enough.
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2005 7:18:36 am PDT #3782 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.