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Steph L. - May 31, 2005 8:14:56 am PDT #3535 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And John Irving has other issues (like bears and wrestling)

And Vienna. And hookers. And really weird sex with inappropriate people.


§ ita § - May 31, 2005 8:15:32 am PDT #3536 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

novels and movies where people performing cunnilingus are similarly clonked, and break their noses on the pubic bone.

This is making me think of Chasing Amy, but I dare not google to make sure.


flea - May 31, 2005 8:15:57 am PDT #3537 of 10002
information libertarian

Nobody is mentioning the huge SCREWING YOUR SISTER I.E. INCEST issue John Irving has???

(Edit: I guess that would be covered under "really weird sex with inappropriate people.")


Gris - May 31, 2005 8:17:33 am PDT #3538 of 10002
Hey. New board.

Still excited about The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants.

So far it's getting pretty good reviews.

Sadly, I don't think I'll be able to convince any of my friends to go see it with me. I might be walking to a Pasadena theater all on my own.


Nutty - May 31, 2005 8:18:01 am PDT #3539 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, Garp doesn't have a sister. Although, his mom screws a comatose soldier (hence the existence of Garp), so you could say that the not-kosher, non-con sex issue is quite present.


Gris - May 31, 2005 8:18:40 am PDT #3540 of 10002
Hey. New board.

This is making me think of Chasing Amy, but I dare not google to make sure.

Haha. I forgot about that scene until you mentioned it. Those were some funny stories.


Steph L. - May 31, 2005 8:19:52 am PDT #3541 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Well, Garp doesn't have a sister. Although, his mom screws a comatose soldier (hence the existence of Garp), so you could say that the not-kosher, non-con sex issue is quite present.

Garp still has weird and inappropriate sex with -- hell, I can't remember any more -- a friend's wife?


Betsy HP - May 31, 2005 8:45:30 am PDT #3542 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Just for the record, what sort of sex is not weird?


§ ita § - May 31, 2005 8:46:55 am PDT #3543 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

::resists urge to google::

I think if you judge sex against itself, you're going to align "weird" within its boundaries. If all sex is weird, but some is really fucking weird, then the application of the term will shift.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 31, 2005 9:04:15 am PDT #3544 of 10002
You have to remember that being a 5-time Olympic medalist means Hilary Knight has been playing hockey at an elite level at least 16 years. It's impossible for her to be a teenage girl less than 16 years old, thus the President's complete lack of interest.

I can't recall any other instances of specific circumstances that were identical to the one in question, so not quite a trope yet IMHO. But I have run across literature with other vaguely analogous mishaps. And Beecher and Robson acted out something like it on Oz, with the car crash being replaced by malicious intent.