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Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2005 10:51:46 am PST #317 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Wouldn't they have to develop a Busterette to examine the exploding tit myth?

Oh come on, you know how much Buster likes to examine tits.


Lyra Jane - Mar 18, 2005 10:52:14 am PST #318 of 10002
Up with the sun

Identity -- the latter wasn't that twisty. I mean, the movie doesn't make sense without an explanation, but it's just not the one you might have thought

Maybe. I just get hung up on the fact that (as I think Jessica and I have each said a dozen times) it's the exact same twist as the stupid brother's screenplay idea in "Adaptation." Which makes me giggle now, but made me angry at the time.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 10:55:45 am PST #319 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I haven't seen Adaptation, LJ, so it didn't affect my enjoyment of the movie. Do the timelines work out for Identity to be cribbing?

What's the twist in The Game?

Primarily when the game ends, I think.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2005 10:56:07 am PST #320 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I rather liked The Game, but, then, I didn't think either part was sucky.

Plus, I want the T-shirt that Sean Penn gives Michael Douglas at the end. Also, Debra Kara Unger - mmmmmm.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 10:56:58 am PST #321 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Game was what made me vow to avoid Michael Douglas movies from there on in. Still saw Traffic, and kinda regretted it. A teeny bit.


Lyra Jane - Mar 18, 2005 11:01:05 am PST #322 of 10002
Up with the sun

I don't have any reason to think it was conscious cribbing, ita. It's more that Charlie Kaufman clearly spent time trying to come up with the stupidest possible plot twist, expecting the audience to recognize it as a dumb one ... and then a movie comes out using it with a straight face, expecting the audience to ooh and aah at how clever it is.

It just bugged me, and I didn't even especially *like* Adaptation.


Scrappy - Mar 18, 2005 11:03:00 am PST #323 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Traffic had the Benicio del Toro subplot, which rocked. And a GREAT cameo by Topher Grace. The rest of it was meh.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 11:03:30 am PST #324 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I liked the movie without thinking the twist (or unexpected explanation, except I'd already worked much of it out) was clever. It was just ... it just was.

I guess I need twists to be clever to appreciate the movie, but not necessarily the explanations.

Probably a me-specific dividing line, too.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 11:04:24 am PST #325 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Traffic had the Benico del Toro subplot, which rocked. And a GREAT cameo by Topher Grace. The rest of it was meh.

ARE YOU DISSING DON CHEADLE??? ARE YOU???


-t - Mar 18, 2005 11:04:29 am PST #326 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The multiple personality thing was revealed pretty early in Identity, though. I thought the "twist" was who survived and was responsible for the murder.

Not that it was good, in any case.

I give the Game a pass mostly because I loved Se7en so much. Fincher gets a lot of slack from me.