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Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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Kalshane - May 23, 2005 7:04:31 am PDT #3129 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

So, I saw Episode III yesterday. I enjoyed it. Best of the prequels, still not as good as the originals, IMO.

However, the big letdown for me was Darth Vader lurching around screaming "NOOOOOOOO!" which seemed incredibly cheesy and ruined what should have been a dramatic highpoint.


Scrappy - May 23, 2005 7:13:31 am PDT #3130 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I sqw III yesterday, too. Like you, I liked it more than the other two prequels, but I still thought the dialogiue was cliched and wooden, and Hayden Christenson SUCKED.

Loved the four arms with four light sabers of General Grevious. Very cool.


Jessica - May 23, 2005 7:18:15 am PDT #3131 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I saw it again over the weekend, and still think it's better than Jedi. The total lack of Ewoks is a BIG plus. (And Ewan's performance, odd as it is, has really grown on me. Poor repressed Obi-wan.)

However, the big letdown for me was

That was a very misguided moment. I think he was trying to call back to Luke's "Nooooooooooooo!!!!" when he finds out Vader is his father, but somebody really should have mentioned that Vader in the suit needs to NOT LOOK THAT STUPID. Ever.


Kalshane - May 23, 2005 7:21:46 am PDT #3132 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

One little throw-away bit I did love was the guy that looked like a young Grand Moff Tarkin standing with Vader and Palpatine watching the construction of the Death Star.


Betsy HP - May 23, 2005 7:24:00 am PDT #3133 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

We watched the first Star Wars movie Sunday afternoon.

I was struck by how much better the composition was on the first movie. There was space in the frames; in crowded shots, the sets were arranged to draw your eye to the action. Many of the scenes were jaw-droppingly beautiful; even the merely competent ones made it clear what was going on, what the through-line was.

The stuff he reworked really stood out because all of a sudden there was no focus; there were ten little blips moving and you couldn't easily tell which was the important one.

Did Lucas switch cinematographers, or did he just lose his eye for visuals?


Jessica - May 23, 2005 7:28:55 am PDT #3134 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He founded ILM. The original trilogy is sparse and beautiful because he didn't have the money or technology to clutter it up.


Frankenbuddha - May 23, 2005 7:39:12 am PDT #3135 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I saw Episode III and liked it a lot - certainly of the 3 recent ones, it's hands down the best. I actually thought HC was OK. My biggest problems on the acting front were Natalie Portman (which I'm surprised by, since I thought she was one of the few tolerable things in Phantom Menace - I swear she's gotten worse with each Star Wars movie) and, oddly enough, Samuel L. Jackson. That may have more to do with his being there causing massive cognitive dissonance to anything in his performance. I think I like it better than Jedi because, as Jessica said, whatever else may be wrong, at least there are no Ewoks.

However, after finally getting to H2G2 last week as well, I'm afraid RotS only has so much for me. Fraction of the budget and decidedly lo-fi (in comparison) special effects, and yet it made me so much happier and felt so much more satisfying in terms of a long-gestating itch being scratched. I understand why people have been complaining that they didn't put enough from the other books, but I'm glad they didn't try to cram to much into one movie. I also have to agree with whoever said that this Trillian has a lot of Fenchurch in her.


Jessica - May 23, 2005 7:54:14 am PDT #3136 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I swear she's gotten worse with each Star Wars movie

I think she's gotten less invested in being good. She certainly hasn't been shy in interviews about being really glad that it's over and that now she can go back to being in movies where writing and acting are valued. Which I get, but it still kind of pisses me off to watch her, because it's obvious (at least in this one) that she's not even trying to make her dialogue work. Yes, her lines are some of the worst Lucas has ever written, but I feel like she's talented enough to have done better if she'd wanted to.


P.M. Marc - May 23, 2005 7:57:47 am PDT #3137 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

whatever else may be wrong, at least there are no Ewoks.

I think this should be applied to real life, personally.

But I really hate Ewoks.


Kathy A - May 23, 2005 7:59:45 am PDT #3138 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I've been trying to remember Harrison Ford's comment to Lucas about the dialogue. Something like, "You just write this shit, George--we have to say it!"