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Nutty - Mar 18, 2005 6:58:58 am PST #246 of 10002

"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

this has already been done in the comics, and that Superman and Batman have both been able to overcome their roots and their period of goofy for translation into movies.

I agree that comics have resolved their overcommeance issues, but the broad US audience still hears Wonder Woman and thinks, Lynda Carter and her bionic shiny lips! A superhero who throws like a third-grade girl! So, that's a hurdle to overcome.

Also, Superman and Batman didn't have embarrassingly ridiculous backstory -- in a lot of ways, the current versions have the same backstory (simplified and updated). But, Amazon women? I am thinking no.

§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 7:02:15 am PST #247 of 10002

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Superman and Batman didn't have embarrassingly ridiculous backstory -- in a lot of ways, the current versions have the same backstory (simplified and updated). But, Amazon women? I am thinking no.

You're very kind. Alien shot to earth and borderline-psychopath rich kid?

P.M. Marc - Mar 18, 2005 7:02:53 am PST #248 of 10002

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Also, Superman and Batman didn't have embarrassingly ridiculous backstory -- in a lot of ways, the current versions have the same backstory (simplified and updated). But, Amazon women? I am thinking no.

Dude, she's still an Amazon. It's just more complex and actually related to mythology than it once was. And while Supes and Bats have fairly basic origin stories, they still had years and years of pure crack crap to overcome in terms of post-Wertham storylines. See: Bat Mite.

I agree that comics have resolved their overcommeance issues, but the broad US audience still hears Wonder Woman and thinks, Lynda Carter and her bionic shiny lips! A superhero who throws like a third-grade girl! So, that's a hurdle to overcome.

No more of a hurdle than, say, Adam West and the homoerotic camp of the Batman TV series.

-t - Mar 18, 2005 7:02:55 am PST #249 of 10002

I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Tim Burton overcame Adam West.

Steph L. - Mar 18, 2005 7:05:54 am PST #250 of 10002

the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

No more of a hurdle than, say, Adam West and the homoerotic camp of the Batman TV series.

I'd like to see the Batusi in the current comics.

Tom Scola - Mar 18, 2005 7:09:22 am PST #251 of 10002

Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Tim Burton overcame Adam West.

And Joel Schumaker quickly regressed. There's a lot of people who are still stuck in the mindset.

§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 7:10:53 am PST #252 of 10002

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't love the Schumaker Batman, but I don't see it as being in the same spirit as Adam West, at all.

Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 18, 2005 7:10:55 am PST #253 of 10002

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd like to see the Batusi in the current comics.

Maybe you will if Quentin Tarrantino ever licenses rights for a comics adaptation of Pulp Fiction.

Tom Scola - Mar 18, 2005 7:15:36 am PST #254 of 10002

Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

but I don't see it as being in the same spirit as Adam West, at all.

You mean it's not homoerotic camp?

§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 7:19:12 am PST #255 of 10002

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You mean it's not homoerotic camp?

Far be it from me to deem all homoerotic camp as the same.

While it may also be homoerotic and camp, I don't think it is in vaguely similar ways.

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