bizarro Freudian and later gooftastic 70s roots
Pretty much sums it up.
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reequeen - Mar 18, 2005 6:29:32 am PST #241 of 10002
"It's got to be the hair, Cotton. It's beautiful! Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays." Pepper Brooks - Dodgeball
Sean K - Mar 18, 2005 6:31:30 am PST #242 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
We're gonna go, I think. Make Em a shirt that says "Snootch to tha muthafuckin bootch!!!"
If you do, Jay and Kevin need to autograph her.
In certain sections, nothing is ever the fault of the actor
Obviously, these fans have never been, nor worked with, actual actors.
Not that lots of things are the fault of actors, they're just, you know.... people like the rest of us. Many are way dingbattier than the rest of us.
Sean K - Mar 18, 2005 6:47:19 am PST #243 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Okay, the Today show is interviewing the cast of Spamalot. Hank Azaria, Tim Curry and David Hyde Pierce. (Plus writer/creator Eric Idle)
I think if I don't get to see this cast perform this show, I might wind up considering my life completely wasted.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 6:49:14 am PST #244 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think reinventing the story from its bizarro Freudian and later gooftastic 70s roots is the hard part.
They already did that, though. At least once.
P.M. Marc - Mar 18, 2005 6:52:11 am PST #245 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think reinventing the story from its bizarro Freudian and later gooftastic 70s roots is the hard part. Casting? Easy peasy after that.
I feel the urge to point out that, of course, this has already been done in the comics, and that Superman and Batman have both been able to overcome their roots and their period of goofy for translation into movies.
Obviously, these fans have never been, nor worked with, actual actors.
I think they're blinded by the pretty woobies and their I'm-so-sensitive interviews.
Nutty - Mar 18, 2005 6:58:58 am PST #246 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
this has already been done in the comics, and that Superman and Batman have both been able to overcome their roots and their period of goofy for translation into movies.
I agree that comics have resolved their overcommeance issues, but the broad US audience still hears Wonder Woman and thinks, Lynda Carter and her bionic shiny lips! A superhero who throws like a third-grade girl! So, that's a hurdle to overcome.
Also, Superman and Batman didn't have embarrassingly ridiculous backstory -- in a lot of ways, the current versions have the same backstory (simplified and updated). But, Amazon women? I am thinking no.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 7:02:15 am PST #247 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Superman and Batman didn't have embarrassingly ridiculous backstory -- in a lot of ways, the current versions have the same backstory (simplified and updated). But, Amazon women? I am thinking no.
You're very kind. Alien shot to earth and borderline-psychopath rich kid?
P.M. Marc - Mar 18, 2005 7:02:53 am PST #248 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Also, Superman and Batman didn't have embarrassingly ridiculous backstory -- in a lot of ways, the current versions have the same backstory (simplified and updated). But, Amazon women? I am thinking no.
Dude, she's still an Amazon. It's just more complex and actually related to mythology than it once was. And while Supes and Bats have fairly basic origin stories, they still had years and years of pure crack crap to overcome in terms of post-Wertham storylines. See: Bat Mite.
I agree that comics have resolved their overcommeance issues, but the broad US audience still hears Wonder Woman and thinks, Lynda Carter and her bionic shiny lips! A superhero who throws like a third-grade girl! So, that's a hurdle to overcome.
No more of a hurdle than, say, Adam West and the homoerotic camp of the Batman TV series.
-t - Mar 18, 2005 7:02:55 am PST #249 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Tim Burton overcame Adam West.
Steph L. - Mar 18, 2005 7:05:54 am PST #250 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
No more of a hurdle than, say, Adam West and the homoerotic camp of the Batman TV series.
I'd like to see the Batusi in the current comics.