Looks like civilization finally caught up with us.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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Lyra Jane - Apr 27, 2005 7:27:51 am PDT #2248 of 10002
Up with the sun

this is a blatant contradiction

It's sloppy writing, but I think the author meant "in which" to refer to the film, not the story. Either way, I do not think this was a necessary remake.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 27, 2005 7:40:09 am PDT #2249 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's sloppy writing, but I think the author meant "in which" to refer to the film, not the story. Either way, I do not think this was a necessary remake.

Well, it sounds like they are calling the film "Bodega Bay" (did Michael need his name IN the title as well as before it, or something?), so it doesn't sound like they are going back to the original, at least in terms of setting.

Also, the orignal story, if I remember correctly, was more of a mood piece than anything else, which is why Hitchcock basically had a script written up from scratch based on basically just the premise of birds attacking.


Gandalfe - Apr 27, 2005 7:49:27 am PDT #2250 of 10002
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Michael Bay will remake Hitchcock's ''The Birds.'' The producer-director will do for the 1963 horror classic what he did for ''Amityville Horror'' and ''Texas Chainsaw Massacre''

That would be - shit all over it?


Frankenbuddha - Apr 27, 2005 7:51:23 am PDT #2251 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

That would be - shit all over it?

Well, it's what birds do, after all.


Kalshane - Apr 27, 2005 9:43:38 am PDT #2252 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I saw a fun movie last night called Nightwatch that I think Buffistas would enjoy. In the world it sets up, there are "Others" that live among us regular humans who have various powers -- shapeshifting, vampirism, clairvoyance, etc -- and must choose to be either "Light" or "Dark." A long time ago, a truce was established between Light and Dark, with each side setting up a police force to make sure the other side plays by the rules. (The Light's police are called the Nightwatch, the Dark's police force are called the Daywatch.)

I saw the preview for this before Kung Fu Hustle this weekend and it looked really, really bad. Though it sounds like the trailer may not have been doing it justice.


Strega - Apr 27, 2005 10:03:43 am PDT #2253 of 10002

Jim -- Yeah, I know we hear shots, but I don't think it's certain that he's killed. (I mean, I tend to think so, but it's not definite). I'm also not sure about Mamet being much of an influence on Tarantino back in 1990.

Nutty -- To be fair to JB, I was lazy & didn't retype the whole paragraph. Part of his argument is that it's not operating in anything like a realistic universe, and that the story is designed to keep the audience off-balance and maximize the shocks. So I think he means that stylistically it's got a lot more in common with horror movies than heist/gangster movies, even if it's using plot elements from the latter. I agree with you about honor in the movie, but I think his is an interesting perspective, too. I like new angles.

But I should look at the essay again when I get home, because I could just be making stuff up.


Hayden - Apr 27, 2005 10:09:08 am PDT #2254 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Jim -- Yeah, I know we hear shots, but I don't think it's certain that he's killed. (I mean, I tend to think so, but it's not definite). I'm also not sure about Mamet being much of an influence on Tarantino back in 1990.

If I remember correctly, we hear a burst of shots and then silence, indicating that he is, indeed, dead.

And yeah, it's definitely not operating in the real universe. Of all of QT's movies, Reservoir Dogs feels the most stagey. I'd have to see the essay to get the main point of the argument, I guess, but I think of horror films as mostly relying on shocks along with the gore, and RD seems to rely more on trust and distrust. The gore is almost beside the point.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 27, 2005 10:19:47 am PDT #2255 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Of all of QT's movies, Reservoir Dogs feels the most stagey.

I think it was designed that way, so that the budget wouldn't be a major consideration (i.e. as few sets as you can, etc.). I seem to remember reading that QT had come into some money (for selling TRUE ROMANCE, I think, or possibly FROM DUSK TIL DAWN) and was prepared to shoot it guerilla style if he had to, but that a deal came together because of Harvey Keitel and Monte Hellman.


DavidS - Apr 27, 2005 11:34:46 am PDT #2256 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm with Nutty and Corwood. I think horror movies work out various anxieties about body horror: disfigurement, dismemberment, the undead, transformation, etc. Morality isn't the point since they're passion plays designed to jerk the lizard brain around in the uncanny valley.

But QT always has a brutal moralism in place. It's not just honor, but professionalism and loyalty. Marcellus, for example, suffers a major humiliation but is partly redeemed by his ability to honor what Butch does for him. And Butch is also redeemed because he doesn't just leave Marcellus to his fate, even though he's on the run from Marcellus and the rescue is dangerous. Those kind of scenes are a constant in Tarnatino's films.


Gris - Apr 27, 2005 2:46:47 pm PDT #2257 of 10002
Hey. New board.

My brother tried to convince me Episode III won't suck by using this review from Kevin Smith. I did some research to show that he's dumb, and I came up with this review of episode II. Sadly, he's not online for me to laugh at him, so I'm sharing with you.

It's gonna suck.