Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


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§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 8:43:56 am PDT #1657 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If I'm to get a message from Grease, it is to deny yourself in order to get ass.

I'm single. For all I know, my reluctance to embrace the above is related.

Why are musicals exempt from "message"? Is it history, or intrinsic to the genre?


Polter-Cow - Apr 08, 2005 8:44:54 am PDT #1658 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Why are musicals exempt from "message"?

I don't think they are.


JohnSweden - Apr 08, 2005 8:45:43 am PDT #1659 of 10002
I can't even.

I was only 8 when The Terminator came out, so it wasn't exactly what my parents would have been taking me to anyway.

We need a good offa my lawn post. Oh wait, I'll do.

DAMN KIDS, OFFA MY LAWN!

(saw Terminator a bunch in the theatre)

We now return you to your regularly scheduled posting. Stay in school.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 8:46:53 am PDT #1660 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I saw Terminator in the theatre too -- the weekend T2 came out. Montreal used to have great rep theatres.


Betsy HP - Apr 08, 2005 8:48:01 am PDT #1661 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

The first issue musical is Show Boat, which premiered in 1927. There are also such examples as Of Thee I Sing and Finian's Rainbow and South Pacific, for pity's sake.

Grease is deliberately fluffy, the movie much more so than the stage production, in which Frenchy has a pregnancy scare.


Sean K - Apr 08, 2005 8:49:16 am PDT #1662 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

He's [Bruce Willis] also the worst part of Pulp Fiction.

That's just crazy talk.

I loathe The Fifth Element. Every second of that film is like fingernails on a blackboard to me.

Jess is dead to me.


Scrappy - Apr 08, 2005 8:49:49 am PDT #1663 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

See, ita, I saw it as saying love lets you expand who you are - he could be Greaser AND letterman, She could be nice girl AND wear hoochie pants. It's all good.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 8:50:26 am PDT #1664 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are also such examples as Of Thee I Sing and Finian's Rainbow and South Pacific, for pity's sake.

There are fluffy non-musicals too, so I'm not overwhelmed with the causality here.

the stage production, in which Frenchy has a pregnancy scare.

So there are two?


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 8:51:29 am PDT #1665 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I saw it as saying love lets you expand who you are - he could be Greaser AND letterman, She could be nice girl AND wear hoochie pants. It's all good.

No, you're all fluffy and optimistic. They're both bending themselves out of shape to fit other limitations -- he'll be boozing and she'll be abusing Valium and they'll both be neglecting their (unplanned) kids within scant years.


Sean K - Apr 08, 2005 8:51:38 am PDT #1666 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It's a musical. I don't tend to have high expectations for their "message".

See also, Carousel.

See also NAZI SYMPATHIZERS ARE GREAT Evita.