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§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 8:50:26 am PDT #1664 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are also such examples as Of Thee I Sing and Finian's Rainbow and South Pacific, for pity's sake.

There are fluffy non-musicals too, so I'm not overwhelmed with the causality here.

the stage production, in which Frenchy has a pregnancy scare.

So there are two?


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 8:51:29 am PDT #1665 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I saw it as saying love lets you expand who you are - he could be Greaser AND letterman, She could be nice girl AND wear hoochie pants. It's all good.

No, you're all fluffy and optimistic. They're both bending themselves out of shape to fit other limitations -- he'll be boozing and she'll be abusing Valium and they'll both be neglecting their (unplanned) kids within scant years.


Sean K - Apr 08, 2005 8:51:38 am PDT #1666 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It's a musical. I don't tend to have high expectations for their "message".

See also, Carousel.

See also NAZI SYMPATHIZERS ARE GREAT Evita.


Steph L. - Apr 08, 2005 8:53:39 am PDT #1667 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The message of Les Miz was, IIRC, VIVE LA RESISTANCE!!!!1!


Hayden - Apr 08, 2005 8:53:42 am PDT #1668 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

My wife loves The Fifth Element, but I'm with Jessica and Nutty: I'd almost rather listen to two hours of fingernails on blackboards.


Scrappy - Apr 08, 2005 8:55:48 am PDT #1669 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

ita, being a nice girl and wanting to wear tight black clothes scarcely seems too "out of shape." Unless you heve an awfully rigid view of humanity. Hmm, Stricty McRolepants?


Aims - Apr 08, 2005 8:57:23 am PDT #1670 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

See also NAZI SYMPATHIZERS ARE GREAT Evita.

Shut it. It's also about social climbing = great.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 8:58:45 am PDT #1671 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

being a nice girl and wanting to wear tight black clothes scarcely seems too "out of shape." Unless you heve an awfully rigid view of humanity. Hmm, Stricty McRolepants?

Hell, I'm not a nice girl, but if I dressed like that to get ass, I'd get flak for it.

But she didn't just put on a pair of pants, not hardly.


JohnSweden - Apr 08, 2005 8:59:04 am PDT #1672 of 10002
I can't even.

They're both bending themselves out of shape to fit other limitations -- he'll be boozing and she'll be abusing Valium and they'll both be neglecting their (unplanned) kids within scant years.

ita has the right of it. I always hoped for a nice DUI/assault police arrest for Danny and maybe an overdose for ONJ. So, yes, a happy ending.


Fred Pete - Apr 08, 2005 9:00:29 am PDT #1673 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Grease is deliberately fluffy, the movie much more so than the stage production, in which Frenchy has a pregnancy scare.

Um, in the movie, it's transferred to Rizzo. And I'll forgive it, because it gives Stockard Channing the chance to nail the hell out of "There Are Worse Things I Could Do."

I saw it as saying love lets you expand who you are - he could be Greaser AND letterman, She could be nice girl AND wear hoochie pants. It's all good.

I'm with ita. Danny rips off the letter sweater the moment he sees Sandy in the hoochie pants. And we never see that Sandy remains the nice girl -- in fact, the reprise to "Look at Me, I'm Sandra Dee" suggests quite the opposite.

And I will always be haunted by the blank look on John Travolta's face during the close-ups during "Greased Lightning."