Angel's lame. His hair goes straight up, and he's bloody stupid!

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§ ita § - Mar 30, 2005 1:09:54 pm PST #1380 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And one where the genders are not divided into "the Oprah crowd" and "the Maxim readers".

Well, I thought that part was about dividing the stereotypical portrayals of women, and not meant to account for us all. That bit I'm fine with, because I don't want to see either Diana.

edit:

Nor is this goink apparently aware that Joss did script work on X-Men.

Maybe the writer thought having Joss's work almost all tossed meant it didn't count. No, still confusing.


DXMachina - Mar 30, 2005 1:12:22 pm PST #1381 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Nor is this goink apparently aware that Joss did script work on X-Men.

Nor, apparently, that Joss is currently writing one of the X-Men books.


bon bon - Mar 30, 2005 1:24:53 pm PST #1382 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I don't have a problem with the article. But the author, while having a real point of view about Wonder Woman, didn't know anything about Whedon. I mean, if you really did watch Buffy, wouldn't you incorporate that into your whole "teaching a writer about female superheroes" rant? Or maybe leave out the part about casting Rob Schneider and spending a bunch of time on costumes?


Sean K - Mar 30, 2005 1:31:11 pm PST #1383 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, that's what really baffles me about this letter -- the guy clearly has watched Buffy, so he should be aware of Joss' credentials as a writer and director of female superheroes. None of the potential dangers this guy brought up seem to be that threatening, if you're familiar with Joss' existant body of work.


Betsy HP - Mar 30, 2005 1:41:49 pm PST #1384 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

The thing is, there are superheroines whose attitude would be "Sexism? Are you inSANE?" Wonder Woman is all about the culture shock, having grown up on Paradise Island and now confronting gender roles for the first time. Weird gender roles.


Lyra Jane - Mar 30, 2005 2:20:46 pm PST #1385 of 10002
Up with the sun

And one where the genders are not divided into "the Oprah crowd" and "the Maxim readers".

But I don't think that it means all men=Maxim, all women=Oprah. UIt means, "don't be all namby-pamby 'We Girls Can Do Anything' candy-colored feminist, but don't stick her in a string bikini for the whole movie." I don't think acknowledging the extremes means ignoring the middle.


DavidS - Mar 30, 2005 4:14:58 pm PST #1386 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You have 60-plus years of classic Wonder Woman plotlines to plunder as you see fit

Pffft. Wonder Woman had maybe three interesting plotlines before the Perez reboot in the 80s.


P.M. Marc - Mar 30, 2005 5:02:21 pm PST #1387 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Pffft. Wonder Woman had maybe three interesting plotlines before the Perez reboot in the 80s.

The plot ante has been upped with Rucka taking over. If you count The Hiketeia, he's managed three interesting plotlines (and he's only had two plotlines in the regular run, so his batting average is pretty freaking good.)


Steph L. - Mar 30, 2005 5:03:51 pm PST #1388 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Dude. I loved The Hiketeia.


P.M. Marc - Mar 30, 2005 5:09:35 pm PST #1389 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Dude. I loved The Hiketeia.

How can one not love boot-on-Bat?