What is your childhood trauma?

Cordelia ,'Lessons'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Vonnie K - Jul 25, 2012 1:51:30 pm PDT #9510 of 10458
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I don't think Fred was shipped much with anyone in fannish circles. I totally shipped her with Wesley as soon as she turned into a scary ancient God though.


Polter-Cow - Jul 25, 2012 1:57:11 pm PDT #9511 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I shipped Fred with ME.


DavidS - Jul 25, 2012 2:30:06 pm PDT #9512 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So the rumors that Joss was pissed at Charisma for not telling him she was pregnant and made her evil and killed her or whatever the story is are...a distortion of the truth?

She was almost written out of the show because her drug abuse (Cocaine, I think) was out of control. That's why she ascended.


Strega - Jul 25, 2012 2:36:09 pm PDT #9513 of 10458

I think I remember reading something a while ago about how she had to go to rehab, which is why season four was largely improvised.

That was (allegedly) earlier. Season 4 is when she was pregnant.

And I should note that, if it was true, the issue wasn't like, heroin or something. But I ran across some rumors before her brief absence in S3, which made me go, "Huh, maybe that wasn't just trolling." [shrug]


Polter-Cow - Jul 25, 2012 2:46:55 pm PDT #9514 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hm! And, now that I Google a bit, the pregnancy thing is supposedly why she was fired after season four. I am confusing all my rumors and hearsay.


Strega - Jul 25, 2012 3:47:13 pm PDT #9515 of 10458

Well so are we, or maybe just me? That's what rumors are for. What I'd heard was more like a pill problem, but I dunno.

I do agree that the ascension was a trapdoor in case she needed to stay gone. And then they planned to bring her back... and then she got pregnant. Cue the sad trombone.


DavidS - Jul 25, 2012 4:14:29 pm PDT #9516 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Cue the sad trombone.

::womp womp::

What I'd heard was more like a pill problem

Oh, that sounds plausible.


Strix - Jul 26, 2012 6:58:14 pm PDT #9517 of 10458
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I heard that she was also a major stoner on set. Anecdotally, via a Buffista, but I read a lot of various sources about other unprofessional, divaesque behavior back in the day.


sumi - Jul 27, 2012 11:42:55 am PDT #9518 of 10458
Art Crawl!!!

Principal Snyder was on Perception this week.


erikaj - Jul 27, 2012 2:49:11 pm PDT #9519 of 10458
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah...