Buffistas

If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

Book ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'

Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Film and TV discussion

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.

First Previous Next Last Recent

DavidS - Jul 24, 2012 6:59:38 pm PDT #9492 of 10458

"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Poor Mark. What they're going to do to Cordy is going to break his heart.

It's funny because he keeps talking about how great Cordy's character arc is, when Wesley's character arc is about to take a huge left turn and will easily supplant it.

I think they badly fucked up Willow's storyline with magic-addiction instead of will-to-power.

Then they fucked up Cordy's storyline a billion times worse until Fury came in and did a great rescue with "You're Welcome."

But Wes has one of the best character arcs in TV history.

Connie Neil - Jul 24, 2012 8:22:42 pm PDT #9493 of 10458

brillig

But Wes has one of the best character arcs in TV history.

Comparing the two ends of his presence is amazing.

Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 25, 2012 6:03:20 am PDT #9494 of 10458

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Then they fucked up Cordy's storyline a billion times worse until Fury came in and did a great rescue with "You're Welcome."

To be fair, I think season 4 did a halfway decent patch job by making her the Manchurian Candidate and retconning all her sparkly nobility as manifestations of Jasmine's influence. What didn't work as a "redemptive" character arc was passable as omens that someone was being taken over by a Lovecraftean horror whose M.O. is killing with kindness. But Fury gave us a great swan song with the real Cordelia back one last time.

EpicTangent - Jul 25, 2012 9:32:23 am PDT #9495 of 10458

Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

It's not as big an ongoing thing for Gunn but he's certainly drenched in guilt for his introduction.

"...this heart's not gonna cut itself out."

Gunn came in for some major penance later on as well.

P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2012 9:59:57 am PDT #9496 of 10458

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

To be fair, I think season 4 did a halfway decent patch job by making her the Manchurian Candidate and retconning all her sparkly nobility as manifestations of Jasmine's influence. What didn't work as a "redemptive" character arc was passable as omens that someone was being taken over by a Lovecraftean horror whose M.O. is killing with kindness. But Fury gave us a great swan song with the real Cordelia back one last time.

Totally.

I still don't get the Cordy Stans, but a lot of the Young Kids These Days coming into the show seem to thing CC got screwed over by Evil JWeeWee.

I bite my tongue. A lot.

Steph L. - Jul 25, 2012 10:03:45 am PDT #9497 of 10458

Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

What is the etymology of "stan"? I recognize the word contextually, and I feel like I maybe knew it once, but I am drawing a blank.

§ ita § - Jul 25, 2012 10:07:55 am PDT #9498 of 10458

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eminem song about a crazy fan.

Steph L. - Jul 25, 2012 10:36:43 am PDT #9499 of 10458

Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Actually, I don't think I ever knew that. My Eminem knowledge is small. (I was going to say "slim," but I have enough Eminem knowledge to recognize the pun therein.)

P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2012 10:43:12 am PDT #9500 of 10458

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's the one with the Dido track on it.

§ ita § - Jul 25, 2012 10:47:43 am PDT #9501 of 10458

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's one of the ones I like (I'm not not a fan). He's not wearing his dick hat during it (did anyone click on that link in Natter?), but he isn't shirking the R rating, since Stan goes postal and kills his pregnant girlfriend before taking his own life, theoretically because he doesn't get the response from the object of his fannishness that he feels he deserves.

First Previous Next Last Recent