When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2012 11:01:29 am PDT #9415 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She really isn't that good at it(nor did she think she had to be, I know that) But still.

She thought she had to be. She's a NYC kid who grew up going to Broadway musicals. So she didn't want to sing the part because she knew she didn't have the voice for it. But then she realized some singer was going to be doing all these important, crucial scenes for Buffy and she decided to sack up and do the best she could because that was her character.


Jon B. - Jul 13, 2012 11:04:30 am PDT #9416 of 10458
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm sure the Autotune helped her gain confidence.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2012 11:07:52 am PDT #9417 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm sure the Autotune helped her gain confidence.

Well, AH had that option and still wouldn't sing.

So I give SMG props for doing her best by her character, and delivering an excellent performance with what she herself would acknowledge is a limited instrument.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 13, 2012 11:10:56 am PDT #9418 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Alyson did say afterward that she wished she'd sung more once she heard how SMG's performances were changed in post-production.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 13, 2012 11:12:15 am PDT #9419 of 10458
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I actually read that AH said something like "If I knew what they could do to a voice, I would have sung."

I don't mind the autotune, really-- would you rather have had her be bad? Although I liked Nick's semi-badness.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2012 11:15:12 am PDT #9420 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Although I liked Nick's semi-badness.

I loved that he gave it his all, and really worked the dance routine.

Alyson did say afterward that she wished she'd sung more once she heard how SMG's performances were changed in post-production.

Right, but SMG put it on the line, risking sounding bad before she could hear the final fixed up version. She's the one who took the chance, and a pretty big one for the star of a TV show watched by millions.


Zenkitty - Jul 13, 2012 11:19:16 am PDT #9421 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

She wasn't THAT bad. She sounded like a regular non-professional-singer person, singing. Which I thought was fine, because that's what Buffy was, anyway.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 13, 2012 11:22:03 am PDT #9422 of 10458
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She wasn't THAT bad. She sounded like a regular non-professional-singer person, singing.

I am assuming that she must have been actually bad in order for the autotune to only make her sound like a regular person, but maybe I am misunderstanding autotune. Does it actually fix your pitch (which to me means she is "bad") or does it also make your voice sound more pleasant? I am coming at this as a regular person singer who is always on key, but I don't really have the prettiest voice.


le nubian - Jul 13, 2012 12:06:00 pm PDT #9423 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

autotune can't work miracles, or I would be on the pop charts right now.


Atropa - Jul 13, 2012 12:24:38 pm PDT #9424 of 10458
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Does it actually fix your pitch (which to me means she is "bad") or does it also make your voice sound more pleasant?

Autotune can fix issues with pitch (and punch up weak or breathy sounding voices, IIRC), but it can't add warmth or other things that make "pretty" voices.