You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.

Dawn ,'Storyteller'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2012 11:15:12 am PDT #9420 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Although I liked Nick's semi-badness.

I loved that he gave it his all, and really worked the dance routine.

Alyson did say afterward that she wished she'd sung more once she heard how SMG's performances were changed in post-production.

Right, but SMG put it on the line, risking sounding bad before she could hear the final fixed up version. She's the one who took the chance, and a pretty big one for the star of a TV show watched by millions.


Zenkitty - Jul 13, 2012 11:19:16 am PDT #9421 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

She wasn't THAT bad. She sounded like a regular non-professional-singer person, singing. Which I thought was fine, because that's what Buffy was, anyway.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 13, 2012 11:22:03 am PDT #9422 of 10458
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

She wasn't THAT bad. She sounded like a regular non-professional-singer person, singing.

I am assuming that she must have been actually bad in order for the autotune to only make her sound like a regular person, but maybe I am misunderstanding autotune. Does it actually fix your pitch (which to me means she is "bad") or does it also make your voice sound more pleasant? I am coming at this as a regular person singer who is always on key, but I don't really have the prettiest voice.


le nubian - Jul 13, 2012 12:06:00 pm PDT #9423 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

autotune can't work miracles, or I would be on the pop charts right now.


Atropa - Jul 13, 2012 12:24:38 pm PDT #9424 of 10458
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Does it actually fix your pitch (which to me means she is "bad") or does it also make your voice sound more pleasant?

Autotune can fix issues with pitch (and punch up weak or breathy sounding voices, IIRC), but it can't add warmth or other things that make "pretty" voices.


Glamcookie - Jul 13, 2012 12:25:45 pm PDT #9425 of 10458
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I loved SMG's performance in OMWF. That took real guts and she pulled it off just fine. There was no need to be a perfect singer in the context of the story. She did great!


erikaj - Jul 13, 2012 1:04:39 pm PDT #9426 of 10458
Always Anti-fascist!

By her not thinking she had to be, I meant more that signing on as "Buffy", who would think that would happen?


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2012 2:11:42 pm PDT #9427 of 10458
brillig

So the complaint about Autotune is that it makes bad singers marketable? I've been kind of baffled by the hatred of Autotune, because I hear the songs that are apparently Autotuned, and I can't hear the complaints. They don't sound fake or computer generated, just competently sung.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2012 2:17:38 pm PDT #9428 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am generally bad at "hearing" things, but I can hear some of the autotune artifacts, and at least some people are overdoing it, because it's a weird metallic sensation in my ears. Drives me nuts.


Atropa - Jul 13, 2012 2:31:14 pm PDT #9429 of 10458
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I am generally bad at "hearing" things, but I can hear some of the autotune artifacts, and at least some people are overdoing it, because it's a weird metallic sensation in my ears. Drives me nuts.

Autotune, in the hands of someone VERY GOOD, can be made "invisible". But that's not the effect that a lot of singers/producers are using it for - they want that weird metallic sound.

Even when it's not overdone like that, it still can be pretty obvious. It's one of the reasons I was never able to get into the show Glee. The obvious autotune made me grind my teeth.