It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 21, 2012 4:56:53 pm PDT #9402 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

As I recall, they sort of did in "Hush."


erikaj - Jun 22, 2012 7:31:00 am PDT #9403 of 10458
Always Anti-fascist!

I know...that was kind of funny, because it was early on. (I won't say I never liked those jokes, but by Season 6, it was like having frequent nosebleeds or something.)


Polter-Cow - Jun 22, 2012 10:39:38 am PDT #9404 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Mark watches "The Gift." So now you can see that, yes, he really does react like that.


Steph L. - Jun 22, 2012 12:05:43 pm PDT #9405 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I do totally envy his unspoiledness. I would love to be watching Buffy and Angel all over again, with it all new to me.


Polter-Cow - Jun 22, 2012 12:45:19 pm PDT #9406 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Somehow he knows that there is a musical episode, but he has managed not to find out the title of it. I think the listing in the Comic-Con brochure is just "Buffy: The Musical," so that makes sense if he never read the description.

Someone just bought a video of him watching "Once More with Feeling." He has no idea what it is.

I don't know what that is but I hope it's not terrifying and I pee myself on camera.


Strix - Jul 06, 2012 3:05:50 pm PDT #9407 of 10458
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Oh, I just watched a little bit of the 2nd part of the Mark Watches The Gift.

Damn, I started crying again, too. I sobbed for a good 20 minutes starting with the "Summer's blood" speech, and then afterwards.

As a person who has dealt with depression a lot, I actually quite like most of Season 6. I watch so MANY of those eps when I feel like I'm entering a depressp episode, and I need a good cry/role model. OMWF, I'm looking at you! (I think I've seen it probably 20 times -- it has its flaws, but I still love it like cake.


Gris - Jul 06, 2012 4:35:43 pm PDT #9408 of 10458
Hey. New board.

Okay guys, I expert help is needed. I finally got my wife interested in Buffy and angel and we are now in season four/one. I am trying to watch in a way to catch the crossovers right. The lists I've found are designed to reduce disk swapping which is great except we're watching on Netflix. I wish they had just bolded the places it was important to actually follow their order, as sometimes the mood is more for one than the other and I'd like to know if it matters., and without too much reminding.

So, help: which episodes in buffy/angel really benefit from watching one directly followed by the other and where can we go as we will? Our next eps are She in Angel and Goodbye Iowa in Buffy.


Polter-Cow - Jul 06, 2012 6:32:58 pm PDT #9409 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, there's the big "This Year's Girl"/"Who Are You"/"Five by Five"/"Sanctuary"/"The Yoko Factor" crossover, which you're just about to hit, so, er, better catch up on Angel. (There is an episode of each in between "Five by Five" and "Sanctuary," though.)

And then there's "Fool for Love"/"Darla," which really work as a duo.

There's, like, a mini-crossover that doesn't actually involve any actual crossover for "Carpe Noctem"/"Flooded"/"Fredless"/"Life Serial" that's basically just Angel and Buffy communicating and meeting offscreen, so that probably isn't a huge deal.

"Lies My Parents Told Me" should be watched before "Orpheus."

"Home" should be watched before "End of Days."

Once the shows were on different networks, the airing got out of sync, so it's not that you have to watch one episode before another in sequence; sometimes you have you have to watch episode 17 of one before episode 15 of the other.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 07, 2012 4:26:31 am PDT #9410 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The only real x-overs during the last season of Buffy/Fourth season of Angel ares when Willow goes to LA in memfault / comes back with Faith in "Dirty Girls", and Angel's brief visit to Sunnydale (can't remember if it was "Chosen" or the one before that).


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 07, 2012 8:24:07 am PDT #9411 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The one before that. After traveling to Sunnydale to help prevent the Apocalypse, it was decided that he'd better go back to his own network Los Angeles and wait for signs that Evil had already killed Buffy and all her friends before intervening.