Come on. You drop by for a cup of coffee, and the world's not ending? Please.

Connor ,'Not Fade Away'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


DavidS - Jun 14, 2012 8:44:12 pm PDT #9381 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How about Doyle?

There's a spark or two. To be honest, there were a few times where she and Angel worked. I thought "Waiting in the Wings" was about the highpoint of that ship.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 15, 2012 5:32:32 am PDT #9382 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, I'll give you that one. Joss was able to make it seem like there might be some viable attraction for a second or two, but no one else was able to.

Back in early seasons of Buffy I liked it that HBIC!Cordy had her sights set on Angel and seemed a workable romantic rival for Buffy. But I liked it even better that she treated him like a leper once she found out about his vampirism.


Fred Pete - Jun 15, 2012 5:37:34 am PDT #9383 of 10458
Ann, that's a ferret.

I thought Cordy/Xander worked. But at least half of the dynamic in that relationship was that it was so completely unthinkable in the social setting of Sunnydale High.


le nubian - Jun 15, 2012 5:39:22 am PDT #9384 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree. I thought the writing and acting was such that the relationship surprisingly, did end up working.

I also thought she did have some chemistry (or potential) with Wesley.


tiggy - Jun 15, 2012 7:26:15 am PDT #9385 of 10458
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I thought "Waiting in the Wings" was about the highpoint of that ship.

yeah...no. that was the time i wanted to scratch my own eyeballs out. it was more wrong than when they tried to make Cordy/Wesley happen.

I thought Cordy/Xander worked.

this is who she should have ended up with. or Doyle. if he hadn't sacrificed himself.


Polter-Cow - Jun 15, 2012 9:19:09 am PDT #9386 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Okay, apparently there are a lot of people who didn't now Numfar was Joss Whedon. Heh.

(Turns out Mark didn't know after all, too!)


victor infante - Jun 15, 2012 11:27:58 am PDT #9387 of 10458
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Numfar, do the dance of unpreparednesss!


victor infante - Jun 15, 2012 2:58:39 pm PDT #9388 of 10458
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

More Mark: It occurred to me, while talking about these episodes with my wife, that the last line of the "Angel" finale -- "There's no place like ... Willow?" -- is the best knife twist in the history of television. Just that shot of Allyson Hannigan, silent and devastated, brought all the pain of the Buffy finale we had just begun to get over back again.


Polter-Cow - Jun 15, 2012 3:03:25 pm PDT #9389 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

(The last line is actually "It's Buffy." But yes. There was much cursing of Joss Whedon for exactly that reason.)


Frankenbuddha - Jun 18, 2012 11:17:17 am PDT #9390 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Mark's viewing of The Gift is up. It's pretty much what you'd expect.