Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 3:06:31 pm PDT #9375 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's definitely something I'd need to see proven, since I didn't see them play out with much chemistry or potential beyond the platonic.


DavidS - Jun 14, 2012 5:38:53 pm PDT #9376 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wes and Lilah for the win. Speaking of dysfunctional . . .

"Keep the glasses on..."


DavidS - Jun 14, 2012 5:40:43 pm PDT #9377 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

since I didn't see them play out with much chemistry

But Cordy never had chemistry with anybody. Not sexual chemistry. Not with Angel, not with Wes, not with Groo, not with Gunn. She's the anti-Spike.


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 5:54:01 pm PDT #9378 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think she had definite chemistry with Xander. I also liked her with the Groosalug.


DavidS - Jun 14, 2012 5:59:24 pm PDT #9379 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think she had definite chemistry with Xander.

You're right; that worked.

But maybe that's more on NB since he had good chemistry with Willow, Anya and Spike.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 14, 2012 6:52:38 pm PDT #9380 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

But Cordy never had chemistry with anybody. Not sexual chemistry. Not with Angel, not with Wes, not with Groo, not with Gunn. She's the anti-Spike.

How about Doyle?


DavidS - Jun 14, 2012 8:44:12 pm PDT #9381 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How about Doyle?

There's a spark or two. To be honest, there were a few times where she and Angel worked. I thought "Waiting in the Wings" was about the highpoint of that ship.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 15, 2012 5:32:32 am PDT #9382 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, I'll give you that one. Joss was able to make it seem like there might be some viable attraction for a second or two, but no one else was able to.

Back in early seasons of Buffy I liked it that HBIC!Cordy had her sights set on Angel and seemed a workable romantic rival for Buffy. But I liked it even better that she treated him like a leper once she found out about his vampirism.


Fred Pete - Jun 15, 2012 5:37:34 am PDT #9383 of 10458
Ann, that's a ferret.

I thought Cordy/Xander worked. But at least half of the dynamic in that relationship was that it was so completely unthinkable in the social setting of Sunnydale High.


le nubian - Jun 15, 2012 5:39:22 am PDT #9384 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree. I thought the writing and acting was such that the relationship surprisingly, did end up working.

I also thought she did have some chemistry (or potential) with Wesley.