Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.

Xander ,'Sleeper'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2012 11:14:36 am PDT #9003 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's been 14 years since Xander lied to Buffy about Angel, and I can't believe I'm still having that argument, but what I think is kinda interesting this time is all the assumptions that this particular Xander defender has made about me, based, I think, entirely on the information that I think Xander should have told the truth.

He's totally convinced that I'm a Buffy/Angel shipper who really likes Buffy as a person. It's fascinating to me at the prejudices someone thinks I need to have in order to take an unrelated position. Like, he's sure he has to undermine me by pointing out my irrationality.

He has a very low opinion of shippers, so obviously being one at all makes me suspect, but obvious a Bangel shipper is the worst right now at having perspective. And I must *really* like Buffy, because I'm looking at this from her sentimental point of view, not Xander's more rational position.

Basically, I think he probably thinks I'm wrong because I'm a girl, but he can't/won't frame it that way. All the subtext is there, though.

I mean, I've seen Xander supported with other arguments, but this particular one is really weakly predicated on me being too emotional to see straight.


DavidS - Mar 20, 2012 11:16:56 am PDT #9004 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Heh.

I refuse to be judged for projecting my big ol’ gay life all over you Willow. I don’t even care that you’re straight, you are my big ol’ gay best friend


Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2012 11:21:27 am PDT #9005 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

He really is that unspoiled.

Right?? Haaaa, oh my God.

I refuse to be judged for projecting my big ol’ gay life all over you Willow. I don’t even care that you’re straight, you are my big ol’ gay best friend

He does love Willow a lot; I wonder what he'll think of her in season six.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 20, 2012 11:21:52 am PDT #9006 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

He's already seen Doppelgangland, right?


DavidS - Mar 20, 2012 11:30:48 am PDT #9007 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's interesting seeing how some people are picking up on Willow's predilection towards using magic instead of facing emotional consequences.


Connie Neil - Mar 20, 2012 11:33:33 am PDT #9008 of 10458
brillig

I'm wondering what his reaction to Willow and Tara's relationship is.


DCJensen - Mar 20, 2012 11:38:07 am PDT #9009 of 10458
All is well that ends in pizza.

Well, Hush is next, We'll soon find out. I hope he starts shipping them before it becomes cannon.


Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2012 11:44:43 am PDT #9010 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It's interesting seeing how some people are picking up on Willow's predilection towards using magic instead of facing emotional consequences.

It's something that's really become apparent this time around, for me. I don't know whether I really noticed it before, but it starts really early on, and it's incredibly consistent. Season six was just waiting to happen the whole time. (It makes it more annoying that they went the MAGICRACK route when all the character development was right there. That could have been executed better.)


victor infante - Mar 20, 2012 11:50:57 am PDT #9011 of 10458
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

My favorite comment:

Willow, you're drinking? I'm disappointed in you. This situation clearly called for WEED.


Strix - Mar 20, 2012 1:13:46 pm PDT #9012 of 10458
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

HA!