It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2012 10:51:40 am PDT #8984 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fridged to turn Willow dark, yes?

I completely forgot that. I mean, much of the stuff goes over my head, but when a well-developed character dies and another character freaks the fuck out and people respond, I don't feel like it's a fridging, so much as a plot development and a catalyst.


Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2012 10:52:11 am PDT #8985 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I found it less funny when I rewatched it because season six made the ridiculousness less funny and more depressing foreshadowing.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2012 10:54:02 am PDT #8986 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It made it funnier, to me, because everyone had all their reactions, and then it happened for real. I have no idea, but that just cracked me up harder.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 16, 2012 10:55:12 am PDT #8987 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It made it funnier, to me, because everyone had all their reactions, and then it happened for real. I have no idea, but that just cracked me up harder.

Twice - they got to have them again in the BuffyBot episode.


Cass - Mar 16, 2012 8:20:29 pm PDT #8988 of 10458
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Don't get me wrong; I think Joss isn't the feminist he gets lauded as being. And that wouldn't bother me if he weren't promoted as being Mr. Awesome Feminist Dood. But, you know, Fred. And Tara. And Penny. And, oh, all of Dollhouse.

He made interesting female characters but then they bit it because it turns out they sometimes failed to be actual interesting characters. He's really only kinda feminist but he's also a guy and that inevitably means we're not going to worship him. Or think he can talk about how female characters can act. Which is, it turns out, factually true. I don't doubt he wants to do well, I just think we're going to make it complicated and judgy for legitimate reasons.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 16, 2012 9:39:30 pm PDT #8989 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think he did better earlier on before the women started having to be saved by the big, strong men. Or be hookers to empower themselves.


billytea - Mar 17, 2012 1:20:46 am PDT #8990 of 10458
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Mmm, Hawkeye Penn...

That's one of the pleasures of rewatching, picking up some of the cameos. Recent observation: in Where the Wild things Are, the abusive children's home director is Mrs Landingham.

Apparently too, there are five actors who appeared on Buffy, Angel and Firefly. (One of them being the actor who played D'Hoffryn, who was also the creepy doctor stalker in I Fall to Pieces and captained an Alliance ship in Serenity).


Laga - Mar 17, 2012 4:51:26 am PDT #8991 of 10458
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

there are five actors who appeared on Buffy, Angel and Firefly.

I thought it was only three


billytea - Mar 17, 2012 4:58:23 am PDT #8992 of 10458
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Per imdb, there are five: Bob Fimiani, Carlos Jacott, Jeff Ricketts, Andy Umberger and Jonathan M. Woodward.


Laga - Mar 17, 2012 6:14:52 am PDT #8993 of 10458
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

hmm. I guess it's time for another rewatch.