Could just be a hoax, though. I fake some headaches, everyone gets used to poor helpless Spike. Then one day, no warning, I snap a spine, bend a head back, drain 'em dry. Brilliant.

Spike ,'Potential'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2012 9:16:31 am PDT #8968 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"So this is Angel. He's large and glowery, isn't he?"

"I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?"
"Angel's here to protect Buffy."
"I haven't been evil for a long time!"


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 16, 2012 9:20:48 am PDT #8969 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Anya: What's he like when he is evil?


Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2012 9:28:15 am PDT #8970 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Comments from Spoils:

Pangs is even worse than I remember it. What a godawful mess.

the dialogue is often really funny! But everything about the thanksgiving/indigenous peoples/genocide plot line is extra cringeworthy.

So yeah.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2012 9:34:18 am PDT #8971 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They are so totes interrogating the text from the wrong perspective. As if.


Steph L. - Mar 16, 2012 9:39:55 am PDT #8972 of 10458
I look more rad than Lutheranism

"So this is Angel. He's large and glowery, isn't he?"

Damn it, Angel was in "Dopplegangland." Anya may have been more focused on getting her Necklace of Evil back, but he was there!

Sorry. I am fueled by pedantry.

But everything about the thanksgiving/indigenous peoples/genocide plot line is extra cringeworthy.

And it's clear from the episode that the show is advocating genocide, AMIRITE?

t edit I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.


Amy - Mar 16, 2012 9:59:36 am PDT #8973 of 10458
Because books.

I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.

I am so glad you said that. Because I'm right there with you.

Pangs could be in my top five episodes of Buffy, I love it that much.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 16, 2012 10:13:20 am PDT #8974 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Damn it, Angel was in "Dopplegangland." Anya may have been more focused on getting her Necklace of Evil back, but he was there!

Not to mention "The Prom", though, again, she was focused on Xander.


Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2012 10:20:45 am PDT #8975 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.

I love you.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 16, 2012 10:26:56 am PDT #8976 of 10458
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.

Right?!?!?!?!?


Steph L. - Mar 16, 2012 10:30:51 am PDT #8977 of 10458
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Don't get me wrong; I think Joss isn't the feminist he gets lauded as being. And that wouldn't bother me if he weren't promoted as being Mr. Awesome Feminist Dood. But, you know, Fred. And Tara. And Penny. And, oh, all of Dollhouse.

But I still don't think Pangs is promoting genocide. Or that Xander is anything other than a normal high-school guy.

Hmmm. I wonder what the reaction to "Something Blue" is going to be?