Comments from Spoils:
Pangs is even worse than I remember it. What a godawful mess.
the dialogue is often really funny! But everything about the thanksgiving/indigenous peoples/genocide plot line is extra cringeworthy.
So yeah.
She's not just a blob of energy, she's also a 14-year-old hormone bomb.
Spike ,'The Killer In Me'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2012 9:28:15 am PDT #8970 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2012 9:34:18 am PDT #8971 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
They are so totes interrogating the text from the wrong perspective. As if.
Steph L. - Mar 16, 2012 9:39:55 am PDT #8972 of 10458
I look more rad than Lutheranism
"So this is Angel. He's large and glowery, isn't he?"
Damn it, Angel was in "Dopplegangland." Anya may have been more focused on getting her Necklace of Evil back, but he was there!
Sorry. I am fueled by pedantry.
But everything about the thanksgiving/indigenous peoples/genocide plot line is extra cringeworthy.
And it's clear from the episode that the show is advocating genocide, AMIRITE?
t edit I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.
Amy - Mar 16, 2012 9:59:36 am PDT #8973 of 10458
Because books.
I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.
I am so glad you said that. Because I'm right there with you.
Pangs could be in my top five episodes of Buffy, I love it that much.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 16, 2012 10:13:20 am PDT #8974 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Damn it, Angel was in "Dopplegangland." Anya may have been more focused on getting her Necklace of Evil back, but he was there!
Not to mention "The Prom", though, again, she was focused on Xander.
Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2012 10:20:45 am PDT #8975 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.
I love you.
Nora Deirdre - Mar 16, 2012 10:26:56 am PDT #8976 of 10458
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
I'm glad I started watching BTVS before I knew I needed to be outraged about things.
Right?!?!?!?!?
Steph L. - Mar 16, 2012 10:30:51 am PDT #8977 of 10458
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Don't get me wrong; I think Joss isn't the feminist he gets lauded as being. And that wouldn't bother me if he weren't promoted as being Mr. Awesome Feminist Dood. But, you know, Fred. And Tara. And Penny. And, oh, all of Dollhouse.
But I still don't think Pangs is promoting genocide. Or that Xander is anything other than a normal high-school guy.
Hmmm. I wonder what the reaction to "Something Blue" is going to be?
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2012 10:33:45 am PDT #8978 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
(What was wrong with Tara?)
Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2012 10:36:24 am PDT #8979 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
But I still don't think Pangs is promoting genocide.
I don't think that's the issue. I think it's something about Native American spirits and...something? Making light of things? I don't know. You know, any time you do anything, it's problematic.
I wonder what the reaction to "Something Blue" is going to be?
What am I supposed to be outraged about there?