You walk in worlds the others can't begin to imagine.

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


billytea - Jan 19, 2012 12:26:57 pm PST #8429 of 10459
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Definitely better than Native Americans!

I wonder how they'll react when Xander's penis gets diseases from a Chumash tribe.


DebetEsse - Jan 19, 2012 12:44:00 pm PST #8430 of 10459
Woe to the fucking wicked.

At least the show explicitly "teaches the controversy" on the Chumash...yeah, that's probably not enough...


Connie Neil - Jan 19, 2012 1:34:36 pm PST #8431 of 10459
brillig

I wonder how they'll react to Willow's denunciation of Thanksgiving.


Polter-Cow - Jan 19, 2012 1:49:17 pm PST #8432 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Is it just because they're young?

Possibly, but you can't say that because it's ageist.

It's all "You mentioned the Romani! You must now make an explicit effort to undo generations of bigotry or you're part of the problem!"

There was a very interesting comment from an actual Romani who was basically like, "It didn't bother me because they always get it wrong, and we don't tell anyone our secret ways, so whatevs."


Connie Neil - Jan 19, 2012 2:02:29 pm PST #8433 of 10459
brillig

Possibly, but you can't say that because it's ageist.

Get offa my lawn.

edit: Harumph. t cane shake


Jon B. - Jan 19, 2012 2:09:32 pm PST #8434 of 10459
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

from an actual Romani

That links back here, P-C.


§ ita § - Jan 19, 2012 2:14:21 pm PST #8435 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

SECRET WAYS, JON. SECRET WAYS.


Polter-Cow - Jan 19, 2012 2:15:55 pm PST #8436 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That links back here, P-C.

Blah. Fixed.


DavidS - Jan 19, 2012 2:29:49 pm PST #8437 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The thing about gypsy curses is they're not just a stereotype but they're also a horror trope. It's all over the Wolfman movies from the 40s. Joss does like to play with the tropes.


Polter-Cow - Jan 19, 2012 2:33:29 pm PST #8438 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Someone noted that on the commentary, Joss jokes that he went with the gypsy curse because it's a "classic" and "Danish curse" doesn't have the same ring to it.