Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jessica - Jan 13, 2012 2:28:50 pm PST #8345 of 10459
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The idea of setting realistic goals with your kid--is that helicopter parenting? What am I missing?

I think talking to your kids about what they're reading is always a good idea, but I disagree with the implication that liking Twilight is some kind of huge red flag.


§ ita § - Jan 13, 2012 3:07:47 pm PST #8346 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Has anyone said that?


DawnK - Jan 13, 2012 4:01:08 pm PST #8347 of 10459
giraffe mode

I disagree with the implication that liking Twilight is some kind of huge red flag

Agreed. Anecdotal evidence: my daughter was 13 or 14 when Twilight came out,target audience all the way. She was in LOVE with them. Talked about them all the time, as did all her friends. By the time Breaking Dawn came out, she and most of her friends were mocking them, not only for the Bella/Edward dysfunctional relationship but for the poor writing too. She read half of Eclipse and then put it in the Goodwill pile, and refused to go anywhere near Breaking Dawn - although she loved Cleolinda's recaps. There's the difference between 13/14 and 17/18. She has clearly defined ideas about relationships now at 20 (as her boyfriend found out early in their relationship, she takes no crap)


amyth - Jan 13, 2012 4:28:42 pm PST #8348 of 10459
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Re: Mark watches. He and I aren't on the same wavelength, but he has gotten me to do an epic rewatch of Buffy and Angel, and I just finished S4 Buffy and S1 Angel. I forgot just how much HSQ was packed into To Shanshu in LA. Among other things: Angel Investigations getting blown up, Lindsey getting his hand cut off, and Darla getting raised. So great!


Cass - Jan 13, 2012 4:30:44 pm PST #8349 of 10459
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I forgot just how much HSQ was packed into To Shanshu in LA. Among other things: Angel Investigations getting blown up, Lindsey getting his hand cut off, and Darla getting raised. So great!

Oooh, good ep. I should rewatch.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 13, 2012 6:43:37 pm PST #8350 of 10459
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Angel Investigations getting blown up

And Wesley with it. I'm curious what Mark is going to make of him and his evolution.


erin_obscure - Jan 14, 2012 12:22:05 am PST #8351 of 10459
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

the LJ link Una posted is one i saw back when i first read the twilight books (and yes, i read them all. not like they were heavy reading or took a long time...) and is HYSTERICAL. Sparkle-peen, she gets it.

All this discussion is making me very happy that buffy S1 is free on hulu basic right now. i really need to get my sister to give me back my series dvds. Curse my good-heartedness in having the chose edition shipped directly to her so she could watch something decent while dealing with the horrors of being 15...gosh darn it, i want my Buffy and haven't even touched the box myself!


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2012 5:13:52 am PST #8352 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Angel Investigations getting blown up

Guys, last night, in the car on the way home, I heard Queen's "We Are the Champions," and I realized that after all this time, I *still* immediately think of Wes, Gunn, and Cordy singing it, every single time I hear it. Every. Time.


DebetEsse - Jan 14, 2012 6:39:10 am PST #8353 of 10459
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I *still* immediately think of Wes, Gunn, and Cordy singing it, every single time I hear it. Every. Time.

Of course. I assumed that this was normal.


§ ita § - Jan 14, 2012 7:01:20 am PST #8354 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For some extrapolative reason, all Queen is a Highlander trigger for me. It's a bit cumbersome.