Mal: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous. Simon: Yes, I'm very proud.

'Safe'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Connie Neil - Jan 11, 2012 12:25:06 pm PST #8236 of 10459
brillig

I keep getting the impression that most of the people commenting there are very young, ie, they don't realize how much grey there actually is in the world.


Polter-Cow - Jan 11, 2012 12:30:43 pm PST #8237 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I keep getting the impression that they've just discovered -isms and it makes them feel like they're better people for being oh-so-enlightened.


sj - Jan 11, 2012 12:43:05 pm PST #8238 of 10459
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

While I am sort of baffled at his complete misread of Drusilla, I do kind of get the criticism that her main character trait as of now is "crazy." Mostly she says a lot of things that don't make sense, which is perfectly entertaining but perhaps doesn't say a lot about her as a person? I think Juliet Landau brought a lot to the character and made her feel like there was someone behind all those bizarre lines.

It makes me sad how much he doesn't seem to understand Drusilla. For me, she is such a big part of enjoying S2.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 11, 2012 12:44:28 pm PST #8239 of 10459
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I keep getting the impression that they've just discovered -isms and it makes them feel like they're better people for being oh-so-enlightened.

HA! Yeah, I think you're probably right.


DavidS - Jan 11, 2012 12:54:47 pm PST #8240 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Poor Mark is going to hit Gandalf's death right about the same time Angel turns into Angelus. He's going to have a hard time handling all the Whatthefuckery. Somebody should just stand next to him with a large basket to catch his brains after his head explodes.


Connie Neil - Jan 11, 2012 12:56:09 pm PST #8241 of 10459
brillig

I keep getting the impression that they've just discovered -isms and it makes them feel like they're better people for being oh-so-enlightened.

I haven't wanted to say that, but . . .

edit: They remind me of some of the people in the '70s, who have just discovered something radical that makes them different from the mainstream. A lot of them probably are very sincere in their passion, but they haven't learned how to apply it to real life.


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2012 1:07:18 pm PST #8242 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The point I’m trying to make is that the attempt to portray any sort of mental illness on Drusilla’s part just feels lazy

I'm not sure how to start articulating my disagreement with this. Drusilla is not going to be a sensitive depiction of mental illness, compliant with any version of the DSM. She isn't evil because she's mentally ill, but she is evil *and* mentally ill. And psychic. I'm not sure what he wants from her at this point. A nuanced and intimate portrayal of her character is pretty impossible, for a number of reasons.

But if he really thinks she's there to *irritate* Spike, I don't think there'd be anything I could say on Dru's rather mesmerising behalf.

I can't wait until she kills Kendra.

Sorry, Kendra.


askye - Jan 11, 2012 1:10:15 pm PST #8243 of 10459
Thrive to spite them

I don't understand how Mark can not see that Spike is devoted to Dru, it's a core element to who he is.

I have to say it's interesting to read the comments of someone who sees the show so differently.


Cass - Jan 11, 2012 1:26:26 pm PST #8244 of 10459
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

The point I’m trying to make is that the attempt to portray any sort of mental illness on Drusilla’s part just feels lazy

I'm not sure how to start articulating my disagreement with this.

Buffistas Read Mark Watches Buffy is more entertaining than just him watching Buffy.


le nubian - Jan 11, 2012 1:29:28 pm PST #8245 of 10459
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

right?

I feel like the posts need to go up on storify or something.