Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Steph L. - Jan 10, 2012 4:54:48 pm PST #8203 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Was anyone else kind of grossed out by the demon thinking so poorly of Giles respecting Jenny’s consent?

Wait, Mark said that? I have to echo ita here, and say -- does he GET what a demon is?


DCJensen - Jan 10, 2012 5:04:02 pm PST #8204 of 10459
All is well that ends in pizza.

I'm not sure. He's got some holes in his SF/Fantasy education.


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2012 5:11:19 pm PST #8205 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that Joss alone does a decent setup of "Evil. Monsters do it, people do it. It's bad." You don't need to be well read to get that.

He's appalled at what the bad people do? Welcome to ... oh, welcome.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 10, 2012 5:54:04 pm PST #8206 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't get not loving her right from the very first second

If you had to spend the number of hours he obviously has tying himself up in knots trying to figure out how to describe her without using "crazy" or any of its synonyms, maybe she'd be less endearing?


Typo Boy - Jan 10, 2012 6:49:20 pm PST #8207 of 10459
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I would add that when various traveling peoples are being regularly attacked by mobs (In middle Europe) and kicked out of their homes (in all of Europe, including the UK) I'm pretty sure that continuing to use the word "gypped" is not cool.


askye - Jan 10, 2012 6:57:48 pm PST #8208 of 10459
Thrive to spite them

Mark did add to the thing about the consent

Like, I get the demon would do that, but the dynamic was still really awkward and I don’t like it and please go back to being a cute couple because I already miss it.

I'm not sure if he was thinking the writers shouldn't have gone there because it was awkward and horrible.

Did most of us realize by early S2 that the show was going to go to go there or maybe was it after Angelus came back? Part of the fun of the show was the HSQ.


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2012 3:18:38 am PST #8209 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Honestly, I thought not reposting the part where he says the evil soulless being is making it "awkward" made him look better, not worse.

I'm just going to guess he doesn't watch L&O:SVU, and would be quite shocked by the shenanigans.


Jessica - Jan 11, 2012 3:41:01 am PST #8210 of 10459
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Like, I get the demon would do that, but the dynamic was still really awkward and I don’t like it

Maybe...this is not the show for him?


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2012 3:46:46 am PST #8211 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, he should just skip ahead to Supernatural (I totally fail to get that decision).


erikaj - Jan 11, 2012 5:58:20 am PST #8212 of 10459
Always Anti-fascist!

Would it be mean to suggest Homicide? I think so.(Adena Watson would really fuck with his head, as she ought to...I still half-assedly wait for the confession at the end of the one with the arabber and I know better.) To say nothing of that thing with Kellerman that was purposely written to be as ambiguous as humanly possible. "You, Mark Watches, have a dark side inside of you...you've got to know the darker, uglier, parts of yourself...got to love them cause they make you who you are...anything else is just a bore, you know?" Also, there are many crazy(I mean, awkward) folks in Simonverse Balmer. Awkward as batshit in fact. He would love Bayliss, though. Although it kinda seems like he *is* Bayliss so maybe that's too weird?