I also think that Xander's hate-on for Angel (and thus the BIG LIE) was as much (if not more) about hating on vampires in general (and what happened to Jesse) and specifically about what Angelus had put them through as it was about anything to do with Angel & Buffy.
Stop me before I parenthisize again.
But can you call it that for someone who is 15 or 16? I don't think NGS applies to males who aren't men.
Yes.
You may know nicer Nice Guys than I do. I get being disappointed and covetous. Nice Guys think they're owed affection, and that's an important line I don't think X crosses.
My line is, are you a passive-aggressive douche about it? If so, you have NGS.
Xander was a passive aggressive douche? I thought he was pretty straightforward about the whole thing. Am I misremembering the whole first few seasons?
Xander was a passive aggressive douche? I thought he was pretty straightforward about the whole thing. Am I misremembering the whole first few seasons?
It's probably more of a later-seasons issue for me.
In which relationships or non-relationships?
I also think that Xander's hate-on for Angel (and thus the BIG LIE) was as much (if not more) about hating on vampires in general (and what happened to Jesse) and specifically about what Angelus had put them through as it was about anything to do with Angel & Buffy.
I completely agree with this.
Ple, am I correct in remembering you have a similar disgruntlement with Ducky in Pretty in Pink?
I think Xander's just young. Also, that Angel's being a vampire provides him a convenient out for hate without having to look at the whole Buffy thing.
Crushes are obsessive, due to the one-sided level of intensity in the relationship.
Huh, I just came across this exchange from Halloween:
Larry: You and Buffy, you're just friends, right?
Xander: I like to think of it less as a friendship and more as a solid foundation for future bliss.
Isn't that textbook Nice Guy attitude? Dammit, Xander, stop saying shit that makes the comments less fun. And then he talks about being manly and snaps at Buffy for saving him and making him look like a sissy man and...oh God, the comments are going to be awful.
Xander is such a quippy dude I didn't take that very seriously.But then, even a Nice Guy probably thinks he can get a better Nummy Treat than me, so I've never really faced one off the interweb.