You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2010 8:47:54 am PST #7646 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pop quiz, first answer that comes to your mind only:

How many times has Joss killed Buffy?


Frankenbuddha - Nov 23, 2010 8:48:18 am PST #7647 of 10464
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Twice.

Decided to whitefont.


Polter-Cow - Nov 23, 2010 8:49:31 am PST #7648 of 10464
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

She's died twice.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2010 8:58:15 am PST #7649 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Exactly what I thought. What I had no idea about was that there was contention she died when she was shot by Warren and was then revived. Which I think is a bunch of non-Occamy bullshit.

But he did kill her in the Wishverse too. So while I say Buffy died twice, Joss killed Buffy three times also seems accurate.

Follow my intricate semantic steps without getting dizzy.


Shir - Nov 23, 2010 8:59:55 am PST #7650 of 10464
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I go with three times, myself (with The Wish).


Frankenbuddha - Nov 23, 2010 9:07:30 am PST #7651 of 10464
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But he did kill her in the Wishverse too. So while I say Buffy died twice, Joss killed Buffy three times also seems accurate.

I knew there was technically one other death. The Wish definitely counts. I also though about Nightmares, but I don't think the dreams ever became real reality.

Warren's shooting of Buffy definitely doesn't count.

Edited for an attempt at clarity.


Fred Pete - Nov 23, 2010 9:14:10 am PST #7652 of 10464
Ann, that's a ferret.

Yeah, Warren didn't kill her. It was a close thing, but she didn't die then.


-t - Nov 23, 2010 9:16:10 am PST #7653 of 10464
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Did she die before time got rewound that time Angel became human?


DCJensen - Nov 23, 2010 9:17:15 am PST #7654 of 10464
All is well that ends in pizza.

no


-t - Nov 23, 2010 9:22:17 am PST #7655 of 10464
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's all kind of a blur. Somehow my brain came up with "3" right away but wouldn't show its work.