She's not just a blob of energy, she's also a 14-year-old hormone bomb.

Spike ,'The Killer In Me'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Gandalfe - May 12, 2005 8:38:57 pm PDT #754 of 10458
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Cut off her head to save her from vampirism (he thought).

Easilly viewed as not being done for her.

Risk his life to try and save her from Hell.

Ummmm . . . . I don't think his life was REALLY in that much danger, and I don't think he thought so either.

Admit he probably loved her, an adversary, to his friends.

More for himself than her.

Saved her from the Beast in W&H,

He would have done the same for an intern.

sexed her up but good,

Not at all selfish.

Mostly, just loved her despite himself, which brought him back to a place where he could function and care again after the whole Connor sitch.

I can go with this, but, again, it was for himself, not for her.

Don't get me wrong, I love Lilah, and think she is one of the most interesting characters on the show, not to mention the brutal hotness of her. But he called out a 60 foot demon for Cordelia.


Lee - May 12, 2005 8:40:45 pm PDT #755 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think they were equally important in different ways, at different times. Cordelia, and Angel, gave Wesley a home and made him feel needed when he desperately needed both.

Lilah wanted him, when no one else did, even though she had dozens of reasons not to.


P.M. Marc - May 12, 2005 8:48:13 pm PDT #756 of 10458
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

He would have done the same for an intern.

He'd have gone *into* W&H on purpose to save an intern? I don't think so. He went in specifically to save her ass.

More for himself than her.

How is admitting to the people you want, deep in your heart, and the woman you've been dreaming of for quite some time, that you love someone they regard as Satan's Right Hand, something done for yourself? I fear I don't see that at all.

I suppose one could say that he was trying to paint the best possible picture of events, but that doesn't mesh with how he spoke of it, first in rebuking Fred, and then to Gunn, when he was more than half-shocked at her showing up in Home.


DCJensen - May 13, 2005 3:53:36 am PDT #757 of 10458
All is well that ends in pizza.

Illyria's getup is better if you scroll down to this [link] pic.


Gandalfe - May 13, 2005 4:20:03 am PDT #758 of 10458
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

He'd have gone *into* W&H on purpose to save an intern? I don't think so. He went in specifically to save her ass.

Been a while since I've seen that episode. I'd forgotten that he went in for her, thought he was in there and found her.

How is admitting to the people you want, deep in your heart, and the woman you've been dreaming of for quite some time, that you love someone they regard as Satan's Right Hand, something done for yourself? I fear I don't see that at all.

How is it for anybody else?


P.M. Marc - May 13, 2005 4:32:18 am PDT #759 of 10458
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

How is it for anybody else?

In the sort of abstract respect sense, I suppose. Nothing that does anyone any concrete good, especially with one party in theory dead and beyond caring, but still something that's for the other person.


Connie Neil - May 13, 2005 4:37:38 am PDT #760 of 10458
brillig

Connie! Slap my hand now!

t slap!

Lilah-Wes was one of the big things that got me through the Connor season.


beathen - May 13, 2005 5:52:09 am PDT #761 of 10458
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

Lilah-Wes was one of the big things that got me through the Connor season

Absolutely.


Jessica - May 13, 2005 5:53:19 am PDT #762 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

No, no, Lilah/Wes was part and parcel of the deliciously fucked-up numminess that was the Connor season(s).


Topic!Cindy - May 13, 2005 5:54:29 am PDT #763 of 10458
What is even happening?

Cordy/Connor didn't bother me, I think it part, because I knew it was designed to bring misery, and it wasn't portrayed in any shippy kind of light, or as if it were in any way right. I suspect I like to see the Hairloaf in pain, because I think him catching sight of it was all I needed to be all aboard the painful S.S. Bonbon.

That said, I hated a lot of stuff here and there, for a while, and Wes/Lilah kept me tuning in, when nothing else did.