Buffy. NFA I kind of hated a lot.
I'd agree. Buffy S7 I found often tedious and lacking in sense, but the ending was a decent capstone. Angel S5 I largely enjoyed, but the ending from Fred's death onwards felt rushed.
Early: Where'd she go? Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a space ship. Don't look at me.
'Objects In Space'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
billytea - Nov 19, 2009 5:54:55 pm PST #7190 of 10464
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
libkitty - Nov 19, 2009 8:12:03 pm PST #7191 of 10464
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Buffy s5, which I really consider the end of the show, OMWF notwithstanding. I mean, I even kind of like s6-7, but s5 feels like the logical end to me.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 19, 2009 10:46:36 pm PST #7192 of 10464
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
I adored the ending of Angel (although it seems I'm in a minority there). Buffy's ending had a bit too much deus ex machina for me. Angel reflected the reality of life - that you can't always win, but you keep fighting regardless. Plus it was a lovely two-fingers-up to the network for cancelling them.
Shir - Nov 19, 2009 10:57:46 pm PST #7193 of 10464
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Angel, somewhat because of what Seska said, plus that it was the perfect ending for it, IMHO.
Buffy's ending, while it was fitting to the theme of the show, felt too artificial. Much like the Victorian Era.
Glamcookie - Nov 20, 2009 2:40:38 am PST #7194 of 10464
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Between Buffy and Angel, which show do you think had the better ending?
Totally Angel. It just seemed so fitting and true.
Laura - Nov 20, 2009 3:11:00 am PST #7195 of 10464
Our wings are not tired.
I liked them both, but I give the edge to Angel because I thought the last scene was fabulous. Although I may not have felt that way at the time.
Tom Scola - Nov 20, 2009 3:21:47 am PST #7196 of 10464
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
The Buffy series finale was worse than pretty much every other of its season finales.
Angel always seemed to have problems hitting its season endings, and the series finale was the best of the bunch, or maybe a close second to season 4.
Jessica - Nov 20, 2009 3:59:12 am PST #7197 of 10464
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Angel by a landslide.
By the time Chosen aired, I just didn't care anymore. I mainly wanted the show to be put out of its misery.
I'd have a much harder time choosing between The Gift and Home.
le nubian - Nov 20, 2009 4:06:41 am PST #7198 of 10464
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I think I'm in the clear minority of those who did not like "The Gift." I think that is the weakest season finale of Buffy. I definitely liked "Home" a whole lot more. One of my reasons for not liking the "The Gift" had to do with Dawn fatigue, but I am not sure I really liked the idea of Buffy self-sacrifice as the only resolution.
Vortex - Nov 20, 2009 4:50:55 am PST #7199 of 10464
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
One of my reasons for not liking the "The Gift" had to do with Dawn fatigue, but I am not sure I really liked the idea of Buffy self-sacrifice as the only resolution.
Pretty much that was my basic reason for not liking The Gift, but on a meta note, I loved that Joss was willing to kill off his main character. I mean, we knew that she would be back, but HOLY FUCKING SHIT.