Tough call. If the victory had ultimately been Buffy's rather than Spike's (with his deus ex pimp chain courtesy of Wolfram & Hart), I'd have preferred the upbeat story in "Chosen." But "Not Fade Away" didn't leave me feeling cheated and unsatisfied afterwards.
Darn your sinister attraction!
Buffybot ,'Dirty Girls'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 19, 2009 5:04:27 pm PST #7187 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
le nubian - Nov 19, 2009 5:35:21 pm PST #7188 of 10464
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
What Matt said, really.
I actually like both finales equally for some reason. I thought both were pretty satisfying for me as a viewer and I've watched both multiple times, but I did wish the victory had been Buffy's.
I love "deus ex pimp chain."
P.M. Marc - Nov 19, 2009 5:48:40 pm PST #7189 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Buffy. NFA I kind of hated a lot.
billytea - Nov 19, 2009 5:54:55 pm PST #7190 of 10464
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Buffy. NFA I kind of hated a lot.
I'd agree. Buffy S7 I found often tedious and lacking in sense, but the ending was a decent capstone. Angel S5 I largely enjoyed, but the ending from Fred's death onwards felt rushed.
libkitty - Nov 19, 2009 8:12:03 pm PST #7191 of 10464
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Buffy s5, which I really consider the end of the show, OMWF notwithstanding. I mean, I even kind of like s6-7, but s5 feels like the logical end to me.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 19, 2009 10:46:36 pm PST #7192 of 10464
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
I adored the ending of Angel (although it seems I'm in a minority there). Buffy's ending had a bit too much deus ex machina for me. Angel reflected the reality of life - that you can't always win, but you keep fighting regardless. Plus it was a lovely two-fingers-up to the network for cancelling them.
Shir - Nov 19, 2009 10:57:46 pm PST #7193 of 10464
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Angel, somewhat because of what Seska said, plus that it was the perfect ending for it, IMHO.
Buffy's ending, while it was fitting to the theme of the show, felt too artificial. Much like the Victorian Era.
Glamcookie - Nov 20, 2009 2:40:38 am PST #7194 of 10464
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Between Buffy and Angel, which show do you think had the better ending?
Totally Angel. It just seemed so fitting and true.
Laura - Nov 20, 2009 3:11:00 am PST #7195 of 10464
Our wings are not tired.
I liked them both, but I give the edge to Angel because I thought the last scene was fabulous. Although I may not have felt that way at the time.
Tom Scola - Nov 20, 2009 3:21:47 am PST #7196 of 10464
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
The Buffy series finale was worse than pretty much every other of its season finales.
Angel always seemed to have problems hitting its season endings, and the series finale was the best of the bunch, or maybe a close second to season 4.