Inara: So. Would you like to lecture me on the wickedness of my ways? Book: I brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.

'Serenity'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Polter-Cow - Sep 17, 2008 7:24:48 am PDT #6693 of 10467
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Free download of an extended version of "Exposition Song." It's only extended musically.


tiggy - Sep 17, 2008 7:35:51 am PDT #6694 of 10467
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

ooooh!! i have to remember to snag that when i get home.


Tom Scola - Sep 17, 2008 7:39:14 am PDT #6695 of 10467
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Interview with NPH at the Onion AV Club: [link]


Shir - Sep 17, 2008 8:21:10 pm PDT #6696 of 10467
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Free download of an extended version of "Exposition Song." It's only extended musically.

Grrr. Friend with Amazon account says it's only available for U.S. people.


Polter-Cow - Sep 21, 2008 4:52:47 pm PDT #6697 of 10467
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I just realized that the melody for the chorus of "Slipping" is almost identical to the "Horrible Theme." Well played, Joss and Co.


sumi - Sep 23, 2008 6:46:24 pm PDT #6698 of 10467
Art Crawl!!!

Rebecca Rand Kirshner is going to be running the writers' room for the new 90210.


Steph L. - Sep 25, 2008 3:15:43 am PDT #6699 of 10467
I look more rad than Lutheranism

As The Boy and I are making our way through BTVS/Angel, we're in S5 of Buffy and S2 of Angel, and we just watched "The Trial" and "Reunion" last night.

Now, we had been watching Buffy a little further ahead of Angel, so we watched up through "Crush," and while I remembered ahead of time that Dru is in it, I forgot that she tells Spike that she re-vamped Darla and then Angel lit them on fire. Ooops.

But even having spoiled The Boy for that bit, I have to say, it's been so long since I watched "Reunion" that -- even knowing exactly what's going to happen -- Angel closing AND LOCKING the wine cellar doors is still as big of an HSQ moment as it was the first time. (And, actually, so is Dru turning up to re-vamp Darla at the end of "The Trial." And Lindsey's "How did you THINK this would end?" remains one of my favorite lines to this day.)

So we had the requisite discussion about whether Angel closing the doors and walking away was tantamount to killing the lawyers, or just damn close. Or *not* morally fucked-up at all.

The Boy fell somewhat on the side of it NOT being morally fucked-up at all (they deserved it, he said, because they were Wolfram & Hart; also, Angel just had the shit beaten out of him in "The Trial," but it was all for nothing, and then he saw Darla -- basically -- taken from him; so therefore his moral ambiguity wasjustified). I said that it might not be for another character, but this is *Angel* we're talking about. He helps the helpless. He doesn't KILL humans. Hell, Holland made that very point in the episode about 10 minutes before Angel closed the doors on him.

Which is not to say that I dislike it as a narrative choice; on the contrary, I think it's one of the show's more brilliant moments EVER.


Jessica - Sep 25, 2008 3:33:26 am PDT #6700 of 10467
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Angel closing AND LOCKING the wine cellar doors

Good times, good times.


Barb - Sep 25, 2008 3:46:32 am PDT #6701 of 10467
“Not dead yet!”

S2 of Angel, was a thing of beauty, then the writers went a took a left turn to Albuquerque in S3.

What'd the Boy think of "Have You Now or Have You Ever...", Tep?


Steph L. - Sep 25, 2008 4:21:19 am PDT #6702 of 10467
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What'd the Boy think of "Have You Now or Have You Ever...", Tep?

He liked it (but mostly for the women's clothes in the flashbacks; he's so predictable).

And now that you mention that episode, Angel *did* let the demon kill (almost) everyone in flashback!Hyperion, didn't he? Wow. I didn't realize that foreshadowing AT ALL. (Or if I *did,* back when S2 aired, I obviously forgot it.)

I love beige!Angel.