Rebecca Rand Kirshner is going to be running the writers' room for the new 90210.

As The Boy and I are making our way through BTVS/Angel, we're in S5 of Buffy and S2 of Angel, and we just watched "The Trial" and "Reunion" last night.

Now, we had been watching Buffy a little further ahead of Angel, so we watched up through "Crush," and while I remembered ahead of time that Dru is in it, I forgot that she tells Spike that she re-vamped Darla and then Angel lit them on fire. Ooops.

But even having spoiled The Boy for that bit, I have to say, it's been so long since I watched "Reunion" that -- even knowing exactly what's going to happen -- Angel closing AND LOCKING the wine cellar doors is still as big of an HSQ moment as it was the first time. (And, actually, so is Dru turning up to re-vamp Darla at the end of "The Trial." And Lindsey's "How did you THINK this would end?" remains one of my favorite lines to this day.)

So we had the requisite discussion about whether Angel closing the doors and walking away was tantamount to killing the lawyers, or just damn close. Or *not* morally fucked-up at all.

The Boy fell somewhat on the side of it NOT being morally fucked-up at all (they deserved it, he said, because they were Wolfram & Hart; also, Angel just had the shit beaten out of him in "The Trial," but it was all for nothing, and then he saw Darla -- basically -- taken from him; so therefore his moral ambiguity wasjustified). I said that it might not be for another character, but this is *Angel* we're talking about. He helps the helpless. He doesn't KILL humans. Hell, Holland made that very point in the episode about 10 minutes before Angel closed the doors on him.

Which is not to say that I dislike it as a narrative choice; on the contrary, I think it's one of the show's more brilliant moments EVER.

Angel closing AND LOCKING the wine cellar doors

Good times, good times.

S2 of Angel, was a thing of beauty, then the writers went a took a left turn to Albuquerque in S3.

What'd the Boy think of "Have You Now or Have You Ever...", Tep?

What'd the Boy think of "Have You Now or Have You Ever...", Tep?

He liked it (but mostly for the women's clothes in the flashbacks; he's so predictable).

And now that you mention that episode, Angel *did* let the demon kill (almost) everyone in flashback!Hyperion, didn't he? Wow. I didn't realize that foreshadowing AT ALL. (Or if I *did,* back when S2 aired, I obviously forgot it.)

I love beige!Angel.

Oh yeah. 1950s Angel had no hope.

There was a lot in that episode, little clues for what was to come-- it was one of the most brilliantly conceived episodes of the series.

season two remains my very favorite of the show. a lot of that has to do with my unmatched Lindsey love. i was even one of few who didn't mind the abrupt shift it took with the final three eps in Pylea.

This is probably the wrong thread but did I see Christian Kane on my TV the other night with hideous hair? The face looked familiar but the hair was so awful that I'm not sure it was him.

He's going to be on some TNT show, I think. (Is it the one with Timothy Hutton?)