I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Steph L. - Aug 19, 2008 6:15:07 am PDT #6565 of 10467
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Nope.


victor infante - Aug 19, 2008 6:16:17 am PDT #6566 of 10467
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Nope.

That was my thought, too, but it's nice to have it confirmed.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2008 6:17:21 am PDT #6567 of 10467
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't think so. The one time that Buffy was in LA, W&H was not part of the ep at all.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 19, 2008 6:19:34 am PDT #6568 of 10467
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I don't think so. The one time that Buffy was in LA, W&H was not part of the ep at all.

Well, she was there twice technically, but she only remembers one of those times. However, while W&H were involved in the Faith episodes, I don't think they were around by the time Buffy showed up.

She did meet Kate in that episode, though.


sumi - Aug 19, 2008 6:20:54 am PDT #6569 of 10467
Art Crawl!!!

Fic Bunny: Lindsey as Buffy's dad's divorce attorney.


victor infante - Aug 19, 2008 6:26:08 am PDT #6570 of 10467
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

She did meet Kate in that episode, though.

Yep! That's actually proving relevant in the game, too.


Daisy Jane - Aug 20, 2008 10:00:38 am PDT #6571 of 10467
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

She remembers being there that other time too, just for like 10 minutes.


quester - Aug 20, 2008 6:22:36 pm PDT #6572 of 10467
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I think that Jenny Calendar hit me the hardest. It was so unexpected, and so cruel. I think that it was really the first time that the death that surrounded them really touch

Wash's death scene shocked me completely out of the movie, out of the narrative, out of the 'verse. I've come to accept that this is how Whedon wanted the story to go. I still don't believe Wash is gone. I haven't rewatched Serenity on dvd more than once to make sure the disc was okay. I rewatch Firefly 2-3 times a year. I'm sure Firefly would have reached the same conclusion as Serenity, but it would have been organic and believeable, at least for me. There are many things to like about the movie and more to appreciate. Loss of character agency for most of the cast and Wash's death overbalance those positive things for me. I can't deal with that character death in context, because it never feels earned to me.

I completely concur with these and couldn't put them any better.


brenda m - Aug 20, 2008 6:30:21 pm PDT #6573 of 10467
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Wash's death overbalance those positive things for me. I can't deal with that character death in context, because it never feels earned to me.

In a weird way, Wash's death never really got me - it didn't feel real for precisely that reason, and so it really doesn't resonate the way it should.


Laga - Aug 21, 2008 7:00:53 am PDT #6574 of 10467
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Yeah I never really grieved for Wash.