Dear Dru: Start with Kennedy
Yes!
she likes to play with her food
In this case can she go straight to the eating?
River: The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds given adequate vacuuming systems. Mal: See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.
'Safe'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
beathen - May 10, 2005 10:43:10 am PDT #634 of 10458
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2005 10:44:52 am PDT #635 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
In this case can she go straight to the eating?
I just went to a bad place. I figured I may as well drag along a few of you at the same time.
Kathy A - May 10, 2005 10:50:41 am PDT #636 of 10458
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
I did adore the "Ciao" flashback, where both Drusilla and Spike looked fabulous.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 10, 2005 11:39:49 am PDT #637 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Okay, point, that was 30 seconds of eminently worthwhile flashback. But the time in the immortal's boudiour would have been so much better spent on a resplendently gothy Dru showing up simultaneously with the Burkles to ask "isn't today the day family is supposed to come calling?"
Strega - May 10, 2005 3:56:53 pm PDT #638 of 10458
Connie-
Is this in regard to Angel and Darla? I can see this where they're sitting in the motel and Darla's finally accepted that she's going to dieOh, I see it always. It's like Spike & Dru were all stormy passion, and Angel & Darla were, well, partners. In every sense. The way they interact... they aren't making grand gestures or declarations of their eternal love, because it's not like that. It's just understood. They may fight with each other, but if there's an outside threat, they've got each other's backs. So Darla will conk Angel over the head to save herself, but she'll also go rescue him.
I guess, to answer my own question, I think that if Buffy was about to kill Darla, Angel would have stopped her, and staked Darla himself. Because he'd have recognized that Buffy was Right, but he wouldn't want Darla to die at a stranger's hands. Plus, he's a guilt-hog.
Alibelle-
He did not want a soul anymore, he wanted to go back to the way he used to be before that, when life was quite easy. And he needed to convince Darla, who was leading their little group, that he could be exactly the same as he was, so that he could have his old life back.Hm. I see it, I just read it differently and can't really articulate why. I guess to me it seemed more like, "If the only way I can have you to is if I'm evil, I'll be as evil as I can."
Now I'm wondering if there's a correspondence between which relationship you see as primary and which show you're {more involved with/a bigger fan of/insert phrasing here}. Because I started watching Buffy mid-season 2, and didn't go back and see much of the first season till after Angel's season 1, so that certainly influences how I view both couples.
libkitty - May 10, 2005 4:07:39 pm PDT #639 of 10458
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
I guess I consider myself to be slightly more of an Angel fan. I think that does affect my view of Darla and Buffy. Darla is a more complex character on Angel, and Angel's relationship with Buffy is more ambivalent there. On the other hand, I never wanted Angel and Buffy to be together as much as watching I Will Remember You (I think? I'm bad on titles except Firefly).
DavidS - May 10, 2005 5:43:40 pm PDT #640 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
They may fight with each other, but if there's an outside threat, they've got each other's backs.
Except that time she ditched him in the barn for the vampire hunters.
Zenkitty - May 10, 2005 6:03:30 pm PDT #641 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I always thought of Angelus and Darla's relationship as "I love you more than I love anyone except me." So she'll conk him on the head to save herself, but go back and rescue him - as soon as she knows she herself will be safe. He'd do the same. They were perfectly suited for each other.
Strega - May 10, 2005 6:20:32 pm PDT #642 of 10458
Except that time she ditched him in the barn for the vampire hunters.
That was the conking on the head I was talking about. What Zenkitty said, really: if it's a choice between herself and Angel, she'll save herself. Just as Angel was willing to narc her out in "Heartthrob." And faux-Spike saw that as evidence that they didn't love each other, but their reaction when he was trying to goad them seemed more like, "Ah, yes. You betrayed me. I respect that. Good times."
Matt the Bruins fan - May 11, 2005 5:03:19 am PDT #643 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It seems that Angel and Darla incorporated their evilness into all aspects of their lives, even their love for one another. Whereas the more floridly romantic couples like Spike & Drusilla and Elizabeth & James conducted their love affairs in a traditional sweet manner while reserving their evil behavior for everyone outside.
I think it's telling that once Darla was out of the pictur, Angel started applying that same sensibility to his gestures toward Drusilla, and she seemed to respond much more favorably to that than to Spike's schmoopier demonstrations of love.