Who do you think was more important to Angel, Darla or Buffy?
I'm having a preposition issue. TO Angel or FOR Angel? Because I think that the answer is different.
No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?
Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Vortex - May 09, 2005 5:16:23 am PDT #587 of 10458
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Lee - May 09, 2005 5:31:32 am PDT #588 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I was wondering if someone would, Vortex. I think you can make it one or both, as you see fit.
Vortex - May 09, 2005 7:19:25 am PDT #589 of 10458
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
If it's who was more important TO Angel, I'd say Buffy, hands down. If for no other reason that he staked Darla to save her. When Buffy needed him, he was there.
When you say FOR Angel, that's a tossup. On the one hand, Buffy made him want to be a better man. OTOH, we wouldn't be where we are if it wasn't for Darla.
Lyra Jane - May 09, 2005 8:54:02 am PDT #590 of 10458
Up with the sun
Darla.
After he left Darla, he spent a hundred years eating rats in gutters. After he left Buffy, he sulked for a year or two and then started looking for a new sweetie.
Dana - May 09, 2005 8:55:32 am PDT #591 of 10458
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Only 'cause he had a TV show.
Vortex - May 09, 2005 9:03:50 am PDT #592 of 10458
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
After he left Darla, he spent a hundred years eating rats in gutters. After he left Buffy, he sulked for a year or two and then started looking for a new sweetie.
ooh, good point. But, in all fairness, he was all soul having for the first time, so that was apparently all traumatic. Though it only took Spike half a season or so to get over it.
Frankenbuddha - May 09, 2005 9:07:19 am PDT #593 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Though it only took Spike half a season or so to get over it.
Spike had issues, but they were not the same issues that Angel had. Plus, he'd already had couple of years of not being able to be so evil, and then tried to be actively good for a bit.
Topic!Cindy - May 09, 2005 9:11:50 am PDT #594 of 10458
What is even happening?
Darla.
After he left Darla, he spent a hundred years eating rats in gutters. After he left Buffy, he sulked for a year or two and then started looking for a new sweetie.
Yes, of course this ignores that it was Buffy who inspired him to get out of the gutter, and he didn't even know her, then. It also ignores that when Darla tried to take him back (in the BtVS s1 episode Angel,) that he didn't go.
edited to correct parens
Lyra Jane - May 09, 2005 9:25:59 am PDT #595 of 10458
Up with the sun
Um, that wasn't an entirely serious post, Cindy. But yes, point taken.
Sophia Brooks - May 09, 2005 9:43:50 am PDT #596 of 10458
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
This is hard- without Darla, no Buffy. Without Buffy, probably no leaving for Los Angelas and starting a supernatural detective agency and, you know, no final battle in which he is on the side of good. Of course, that could be because of the curse, and I can't quite remember whose fault that was....
In the span of Angel's life, it seems that Darla was important longer than Buffy. Buffy was important as Buffy-the-woman for it, seems 3 -4 year, and as Buffy-the-symbol-for all-that-is-good-and-pure until the end of Angel. But for all that Darla was "first", Buffy/Angel seems like a first love, and Darla and Angel and the enormously convuluted entwined,overlapping relationship.
I did like what plei (I think) said about Angelus consumed with the need to kill Buffy, while Angel was consumed with the need to save Darla-- even though Angelus loved Darla and Angel loved Buffy. It is a rather beautiful set-up.