You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


le nubian - Apr 01, 2008 2:28:52 pm PDT #5825 of 10469
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

that was really strange, wasn't it (re: Xander not copping to bringing forth the demon!)?

Riley -- Offering to become a vampire nummy treat.

yes. God.

One thing that bothers me is Season 4 of Angel. WTF was Angelus? When Angel "turned" he was like a neutered Angelus. He wasn't the bloodthirsty vampire I had come to know from Buffy S2.


Laga - Apr 01, 2008 5:27:34 pm PDT #5826 of 10469
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'd say even more was not so much the summoning but the not copping to it when people started immolating.

The only way I've been able to deal with this is by saying that it's a musical so the plot doesn't have to make sense.


brenda m - Apr 01, 2008 5:32:20 pm PDT #5827 of 10469
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But that was one of the shining achievements of OMWF, IME. That all the singing did relate to and move forward the plot, none of it was a one-off.


Laga - Apr 01, 2008 5:40:49 pm PDT #5828 of 10469
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

but why wouldn't Xander have told about the amulet during "I've Got a Feeling?"


Laga - Apr 01, 2008 5:42:49 pm PDT #5829 of 10469
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I've got a feeling

That I screwed up here ...


Gris - Apr 01, 2008 5:44:13 pm PDT #5830 of 10469
Hey. New board.

Yeah. The summoning should have been accidental, somehow. He picked it up while humming a silly tune of some sort, then accidentally threw it in the vial of virgin's blood or something.


brenda m - Apr 01, 2008 6:20:33 pm PDT #5831 of 10469
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Here's the thing that bugs - one tiny change could have fixed it, I think. During Walk Through the Fire, Tara has a line " everything is turning out so dark". If Xander had sung that one line I think the whole thing wouldn't have seemed such an asspull.


Stephanie - Apr 02, 2008 12:14:58 am PDT #5832 of 10469
Trust my rage

Willow falling for Kennedy. Also, the whole "lesbidar" joke because Willow, while initially naive in the series, had matured way beyond that.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 02, 2008 3:17:22 am PDT #5833 of 10469
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Willow and Xander piling on Buffy in Dead Man's Party. Joyce and Giles had legitimate reasons to get on her case; Xander and especially Willow should have had a clue as to why Buffy felt she needed to take off.


SailAweigh - Apr 02, 2008 3:53:30 am PDT #5834 of 10469
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Frank, that has always been my problem with that episode and I always held a bit of a grudge against both Xander and Willow because of it. I'm sorry, but floating a pencil and getting a boyfriend are nowhere on the scale of sending your boyfriend to Hell.