Awe, James is such a big drama geek. Just like, oh, me and everyone I went to school with, basically.

Awe, James is such a big drama geek. Just like, oh, me and everyone I went to school with, basically.

It is really kinda sweet, isn't it.

I kind of like his take on Spike became a bigger/more compelling character than was really intended:

But the first is that the show wasn't supposed to be about sexy vampires. It was supposed to be about ugly vampires who die. The mythology was that the vampires stood for what sucks about high school, and so Joss got talked into Angel, which was not in his ground plan, and the character just took off, and he's like, that's it, it's one sexy vampire, I will allow you no more. And then I come along, and I think that he was trying to keep a cap on…he recognized that I was thematically dangerous to his show. He didn't want it to become a soap opera of sexy vampires. And so he, uh, marginalized the character, and it's ironic, because the show is about outsiders, it's about people who are not the popular people, and he didn't really realize it, but he created within…so the show is about these outsider outcasts, and in this group of outcasts, there's this other outcast. So he made me the super-outcast, and the show speaks to everyone who feels sometimes like an outcast, which is pretty much everybody. So thematically, I don't know that he meant to set it up that way, but it kind of went down that way.

If Joss wanted ugly, unsexy vampires, why did he keep casting pretty, sexy people? Plus he made Spike unique among the other vampires because of his ability to love Drusilla.

Yeah, James Marsters was saying this same thing in an earlier interview (or maybe at DragonCon), and it...doesn't make a lot of sense to me, since he appears to be complaining about how "marginalized" the character of Spike was, when he kind of took over the show. And then another show.

he appears to be complaining about how "marginalized" the character of Spike was

I don't think he's complaining, I think he's making an observation about Joss trying to marginalize Spike in order to keep the show from being taken over by another sexy vampire and that marginalization backfiring.

In the previous interview where he brought that subject up, he was definitely complaining about only getting five words per episode if Joss was the writer. I wish I remembered the show the way he does.

I don't think he's complaining, I think he's making an observation about Joss trying to marginalize Spike in order to keep the show from being taken over by another sexy vampire and that marginalization backfiring.

This is how I took it, and what I found interesting. I vaguely remember hearing about the kind of thing Matt brings up, but it really didn't have that vibe for me here.

I don't think he's complaining, I think he's making an observation about Joss trying to marginalize Spike in order to keep the show from being taken over by another sexy vampire and that marginalization backfiring.

This is how I took it, and what I found interesting. I vaguely remember hearing about the kind of thing Matt brings up, but it really didn't have that vibe for me here.

I am Brenda.

I don't remember Spike taking over Angel for more than a few episodes. But yes, he did take over -- and overbalance -- Buffy.