Ouhh! Snacks! The secret to any successful migration! Who's up for some tasty fried meat products!?

Anya ,'Touched'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


askye - Aug 24, 2007 10:35:09 am PDT #5263 of 10469
Thrive to spite them

I didn't think he was being metaphorical.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 24, 2007 10:57:45 am PDT #5264 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Bolding mine:

Angel was an exception too, but Angel wasn't Joss' idea and I think by the time I came on, he was afraid that these good-looking vampires were going to take over the theme. So whenever Joss would write an episode, Spike would have, like, five lines. [Laughs]

Like, for example, in "School Hard," "Lie to Me," and "Becoming," in which Spike probably had almost as much dialogue as the show's eponymous lead? Dude, show not named Spike.

I do hope Marti Noxon gets him a regular role on GA though, lessening the chance that he'll guest star and take over in Fonzie-esque fashioncatch on in a show that I watch.


Polter-Cow - Aug 24, 2007 11:00:21 am PDT #5265 of 10469
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Like, for example, in "School Hard," "Lie to Me," and "Becoming," in which Spike probably had almost as much dialogue as the show's eponymous lead? Dude, show not named Spike.

I thought he was referring to when Spike joined Angel.


sumi - Aug 24, 2007 11:02:23 am PDT #5266 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!

He has a recurring role now. Not on GA.


joe boucher - Aug 24, 2007 11:33:33 am PDT #5267 of 10469
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Dude, show not named Spike.

I wish I could block the memory of the last two or three seasons as well as you have, Matt.


P.M. Marc - Aug 24, 2007 11:44:17 am PDT #5268 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Didn't we rename the spoiler thread Show Called Angel! after Buffy went off the air? Good times, good times.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 24, 2007 12:43:46 pm PDT #5269 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I wish I could block the memory of the last two or three seasons as well as you have, Matt.

To be fair, I was mostly speaking in context of the season Spike was introduced—when he was still a major recurring villain rather than the de-facto lead, and yet did not strike me as someone Joss wanted to put in a corner.

I think Marsters has to be referring to Joss' hypothetical fear regarding the theme of Buffy, as that of Angel wasn't something he'd be particularly worried about good-looking vampires taking over.


orkhan - Aug 24, 2007 7:32:37 pm PDT #5270 of 10469

Hi all. I asked this question over at the Other Media thread, but was pointed/politely shoved over here to ask it. Being my first question on this or any other message board I take it as a learning experiance. So...

At the risk of just busting into anyone's conversation but can anyone explain how Anya's death so completely flew beneath our collective geek radar, while Tara's death had all of fandom wearing black armbands?

It just strikes me as, well, rather unfeminist that her rather point-blank death would elicit nothing more than a "she's such a swell gal" from her, albeit, ex-fiance. To say nothing of the rest of us.


P.M. Marc - Aug 24, 2007 8:00:43 pm PDT #5271 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

(I pointed you here so your interesting question would get a wider audience. If you look back, you will see we went off on a bit of a tangent based on it!)

I think that it didn't have the impact of Tara's in the fandom because it was played down and lacked any fallout, due to no further episodes. It got basically lost.

In many ways, looking at it, it felt like kind of a cheap death-with-purchase. While I enjoyed Chosen more than I did most of S7, Anya's death was kind of an off note, not needed by the narrative except to say, look! People we knew who had names and were not slayers have also died!


Laga - Aug 24, 2007 8:27:41 pm PDT #5272 of 10469
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I was expecting carnage in the last episode of Buffy. Tara's death took me completely by surprise.