And I hear the Coda, where Buffy and Spike clinch, and in a proper musical you'd go, "Oh, how wonderful"--but a Buffy fan goes, "Well, we know how that ends, don't we?"
I think I'll just let the curtain in my head close.
I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.
Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Connie Neil - Apr 29, 2005 11:35:40 am PDT #480 of 10457
brillig
brenda m - Apr 29, 2005 12:06:17 pm PDT #481 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
And yet, never until now did I realize that there had been cuts in the broadcast version. Stoopid networks.
They did allow the initial broadcast to run over by almost ten minutes, so props for that at least.
Polter-Cow - Apr 29, 2005 1:11:31 pm PDT #482 of 10457
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I liked someone's suggestion that Ethan Rayne was responsible, and Xander was covering for him...because of some reason involving blackmail or hypnotism or something I don't know but come on, Ethan Rayne! That would have been perfect.
libkitty - Apr 29, 2005 2:14:43 pm PDT #483 of 10457
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Ethan Rayne would have been better. Then we might have missed the whole Xander is a complete jerk and idiot plotline altogether. I know that they can't be happy, but really.
brenda m - Apr 29, 2005 4:16:10 pm PDT #484 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Quentin Travers is on Third Watch right now.
SailAweigh - Apr 29, 2005 5:16:29 pm PDT #485 of 10457
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I agree that BtVS is best when it subverts the genre, not plays into it, but then the asspull didn't bother me as much as it seems to have bothered others.
I never saw it as an asspull. It went along with Xander at the end of season 2 telling Buffy to kick Angel's ass and nothing about the soul. Xander has made preemptive decisions before hand that may have worked well in the long run, but were done for purely selfish reasons. In my interpretation of him, Xander has always been just a little single-minded; it's why Anya was such a good fit for him.
§ ita § - Apr 29, 2005 5:19:20 pm PDT #486 of 10457
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think it's out of character for him to have done it, so much as that's not how I'd imagine him acting if he had.
SailAweigh - Apr 29, 2005 5:30:38 pm PDT #487 of 10457
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I don't think it's out of character for him to have done it, so much as that's not how I'd imagine him acting if he had.
I can go with that. I have to agree, I don't think it was well set-up, but I didn't feel it was out of character.
sumi - May 01, 2005 4:26:49 pm PDT #488 of 10457
Art Crawl!!!
BTW, anyone here see the first episode of the new Doctor Who? Anyone who did think that the store that blew up looked a lot like the Watcher's HQ that also blew up ?
DCJensen - May 01, 2005 4:44:43 pm PDT #489 of 10457
All is well that ends in pizza.
Sumi, yes.
Plus? I just posted about the show in (well, ep 5) in Boxed Set not two minutes before seeing your post.