It took me a minute with all the cut talk. I have the CD and have watched OMWF many times on DVD, and it always felt off, but in a good way. And yet, never until now did I realize that there had been cuts in the broadcast version. Stoopid networks. We need the whole thing! I lurve me some DVD OMWF, even with the ending. Really, it's kind of amazing that there is as much internal consistency as there is. I didn't expect as much as we got, even from Joss.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.
Mal ,'Serenity'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
libkitty - Apr 29, 2005 11:17:48 am PDT #476 of 10457
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Connie Neil - Apr 29, 2005 11:21:45 am PDT #477 of 10457
brillig
I'm listening to OMWF myself, "Standing," and I'm still going, "No, Giles, you're an idiot to leave!"
Now to listen to ASH and AB voices do that neat thing together.
libkitty - Apr 29, 2005 11:31:07 am PDT #478 of 10457
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Aw. I may have to dig out the CD now. I think I have it at work.
Cashmere - Apr 29, 2005 11:31:10 am PDT #479 of 10457
Now tagless for your comfort.
Now to listen to ASH and AB voices do that neat thing together.
That's one of my favorite parts, too.
Honestly, even the Xander Asspull doesn't bug me too much. When I think of the episode as a whole, I get shivery feelings and am in awe of how well it was put together.
Connie Neil - Apr 29, 2005 11:35:40 am PDT #480 of 10457
brillig
And I hear the Coda, where Buffy and Spike clinch, and in a proper musical you'd go, "Oh, how wonderful"--but a Buffy fan goes, "Well, we know how that ends, don't we?"
I think I'll just let the curtain in my head close.
brenda m - Apr 29, 2005 12:06:17 pm PDT #481 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
And yet, never until now did I realize that there had been cuts in the broadcast version. Stoopid networks.
They did allow the initial broadcast to run over by almost ten minutes, so props for that at least.
Polter-Cow - Apr 29, 2005 1:11:31 pm PDT #482 of 10457
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I liked someone's suggestion that Ethan Rayne was responsible, and Xander was covering for him...because of some reason involving blackmail or hypnotism or something I don't know but come on, Ethan Rayne! That would have been perfect.
libkitty - Apr 29, 2005 2:14:43 pm PDT #483 of 10457
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Ethan Rayne would have been better. Then we might have missed the whole Xander is a complete jerk and idiot plotline altogether. I know that they can't be happy, but really.
brenda m - Apr 29, 2005 4:16:10 pm PDT #484 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Quentin Travers is on Third Watch right now.
SailAweigh - Apr 29, 2005 5:16:29 pm PDT #485 of 10457
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I agree that BtVS is best when it subverts the genre, not plays into it, but then the asspull didn't bother me as much as it seems to have bothered others.
I never saw it as an asspull. It went along with Xander at the end of season 2 telling Buffy to kick Angel's ass and nothing about the soul. Xander has made preemptive decisions before hand that may have worked well in the long run, but were done for purely selfish reasons. In my interpretation of him, Xander has always been just a little single-minded; it's why Anya was such a good fit for him.