some musical comedy genre-inspired wacky misunderstanding or cover-up where Xander realized his guilt
Some patter song where he *tries* to tell somebody what's going on but everyone misunderstands or just talks over him.
She's not just a blob of energy, she's also a 14-year-old hormone bomb.
Spike ,'The Killer In Me'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Connie Neil - Apr 29, 2005 6:47:18 am PDT #465 of 10457
brillig
brenda m - Apr 29, 2005 6:53:13 am PDT #466 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Some patter song where he *tries* to tell somebody what's going on but everyone misunderstands or just talks over him.
Yeah, that would have been excellent, and in character.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 29, 2005 6:53:47 am PDT #467 of 10457
What is even happening?
Some patter song where he *tries* to tell somebody what's going on but everyone misunderstands or just talks over him.I think his nervous patter, when he's walking down the street with Giles and Anya is supposed to be this, but it was insufficient without an earlier set up. Even if we'd just seen him push the amulet an inch on the counter, at the beginning, it would have worked better.
The absolute easiest fix - if they had given Xander Tara's "everything is turning out so dark" line in the Walk Through the Fire bit - right there, I could have bought it. But as it is, it still rankles.
This is great!
It is such a great episode though, and other than the set-up, so much happens in it, that I'm still large with the OMWF love.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 29, 2005 6:54:20 am PDT #468 of 10457
What is even happening?
cereal...
That is, his patter to Giles and Anya isn't supposed to be him trying to tell, but him trying to rationalize.
Jon B. - Apr 29, 2005 8:16:21 am PDT #469 of 10457
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Isn't that a common trope in musicals though? Some wacky ending pulled out of the air (or ass) that neatly ties up the story? I've always thought Joss was giving a tip-o-the-hat to that trope.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 29, 2005 8:28:23 am PDT #470 of 10457
What is even happening?
Oh Jon. That's the best fanwank I've seen for Xander-summoned-Sweet, yet! I'm impressed.
§ ita § - Apr 29, 2005 8:30:21 am PDT #471 of 10457
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The magic for me of OMWF is that Joss almost didn't sacrifice internal consistency and its place in canon to adopt the musical genre.
Such a clumsy asspull really eats into that.
If I'd wanted "just" a musical (not that I believe the unbelievable resolution is a requirement of the genre), I could get it elsewhere.
Connie Neil - Apr 29, 2005 8:32:17 am PDT #472 of 10457
brillig
Some wacky ending pulled out of the air (or ass) that neatly ties up the story
A wacky ending doesn't quite fit, though, with everyone finding out they'd pulled Buffy out of heaven and Tara finding out Willow's been playing with her mind.
Jon B. - Apr 29, 2005 8:34:55 am PDT #473 of 10457
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I'm impressed.
Thanks, but I didn't make that up. Someone else here suggested it at the time.
If I'd wanted "just" a musical
I agree that BtVS is best when it subverts the genre, not plays into it, but then the asspull didn't bother me as much as it seems to have bothered others.
Trudy Booth - Apr 29, 2005 9:41:29 am PDT #474 of 10457
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Isn't that a common trope in musicals though? Some wacky ending pulled out of the air (or ass) that neatly ties up the story? I've always thought Joss was giving a tip-o-the-hat to that trope.
That's what I've always thought too. A little poorly executed deus-ex-machina as good fun.