I know!!!
Overwhelming? How much more than whelming would that be exactly?
Anya ,'Touched'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
sumi - Oct 17, 2006 5:31:22 pm PDT #4055 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!
Amy - Oct 17, 2006 5:32:32 pm PDT #4056 of 10469
Because books.
I thought the same thing (with the "Mom!").
Joyce really was willfully blind, wasn't she?
Amy - Oct 17, 2006 5:34:37 pm PDT #4057 of 10469
Because books.
Okay, the ponytail I get. The sparkly disco jacket? Not so much.
"History, of course, is very much about the ... the then."
chrismg - Oct 17, 2006 5:36:24 pm PDT #4058 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
I think they must have drawn a lot on this episode for the Darla interaction later. Of course, considering David Greenwalt wrote this...
ETA: Also, for "Amends."
chrismg - Oct 17, 2006 5:42:43 pm PDT #4059 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
Julie Benz isn't a very good action actress, but this is still quite a scene. She still hasn't worked out how to work around the teeth.
Also, I miss this kind of interaction with the bad guys. We never got the feeling of being part of a larger evil back, I think.
sumi - Oct 17, 2006 5:48:41 pm PDT #4060 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!
I'm not sure what you mean - you mean the Angel-Darla interactions?
Amy - Oct 17, 2006 5:55:00 pm PDT #4061 of 10469
Because books.
Giles's comment about Buffy living in the now is also really key -- she doesn't (much) consider the future, at least not for a long time. It's a weird way to live when at that age most kids can think of nothing but the future.
I love the parallels between Buffy and Darla here -- the clothes Darla wears really works it, I think, making it the first indication (before Buffy and Faith) of the different roads any girl could take.
I also adore the ending of this episode. SMG is so good in that scene, there's just so much in her eyes, and the cross burn gets me every time.
It's also interesting note how pat she is about her fate, their fate -- "This can't be anything." True. Even when it *was* it couldn't be, not for good. And how true that the more she loved him, the more she was willing to fool herself about their possible future.
Also, I miss this kind of interaction with the bad guys.
I'm not quite sure what you mean either, although I could see something like that for S6 (the evil is us) but they really missed the mark on that, I think.
chrismg - Oct 17, 2006 5:55:43 pm PDT #4062 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
Huh. Thinking about the action sequence, I looked up the director, Scott Brazil....
...and it turns out he's dead. Died in 2006 of complications from Lyme disease. He'd done some other TV directing(looks like no movies, though) like Strange Luck , JAG ,and The Shield ,but it looks like this was his only Buffy episode.
(reads further) Huh. He was a producer on Hill Street Blues ,too. Wild.
JZ - Oct 17, 2006 5:57:36 pm PDT #4063 of 10469
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Oh, yes, Buffy's 911 call hurts.
And, gah. I'm simultaneously broken and extremely irritated by Willow continuing to fruitlessly pine after Xander (probably because she reminds me too much of my own high school self, with the emotionally naked and the easily wounded and the pouring of so much energy into something so hopeless; it's all horribly watch-from-the-hall for me).
Oh, young(ish) Giles, though! And the quarterstaff! And hovering earnestly at Joyce's bedside to pay his respects and fret over Buffy!
sumi - Oct 17, 2006 6:01:10 pm PDT #4064 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!
I love Willow egging Buffy on -- even after learning that Angel is a vampire.