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DavidS - Sep 19, 2006 5:59:45 pm PDT #3821 of 10469
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I always felt that Joss drew from Spider-Man and from the same well as Andre Norton's YA books. That big juicy metaphor for adolesence alienation as being literally quite different.

But...

Even here, when she tells Joyce that she loves her, when she seems grateful that Joyce has her own life, and understands (in a vague, non-understanding but natural way) that Buffy is still discovering hers, she's realizing that she is "becoming" Buffy

This coming into personhood is just excellent storytelling. Not simply relying on the metaphor but telling the story of how somebody grows into themself, loses their innocence, gains their wisdom.

beth b - Sep 19, 2006 6:00:33 pm PDT #3822 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

does anybody ever see axes for firefighting anywhere other than a firestation anymore?

DavidS - Sep 19, 2006 6:01:39 pm PDT #3823 of 10469
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

does anybody ever see axes for firefighting anywhere other than a firestation anymore?

I don't know. But it was a good Shining moment. They stole from so many movie tropes so many times.

beth b - Sep 19, 2006 6:01:58 pm PDT #3824 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I like that Buffy - sort of realizes mom not invovled in everything is good, but still wishes for more

oooh mirror

beth b - Sep 19, 2006 6:07:53 pm PDT #3825 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Joss is good with eyes -- yes evil eyes and statue eyes but he focuses on eyes a lot - when xander says he saved the day - they focus goes from willow's eye's to amy's syes to buffy's eyes... slightly different expressions in all of them .

Amy - Sep 19, 2006 6:10:07 pm PDT #3826 of 10469
Because books.

Yeah, the mirror! I loved that.

I think that was one of the things I loved best, early on. Buffy wasn't supposed to be an academic star, but it was always clear she was smart. Not only in something like thinking to use a mirror in that fight, but in figuring out the heart of a situation. Like when she says to Giles's comment about someone not liking cheerleading, "Or likes it too much." Smart.

beth b - Sep 19, 2006 6:19:52 pm PDT #3827 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and she thinks so quickly - anyone could have grabbed something to put out amber's hands - but Buffy though of it quickly

Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 19, 2006 6:26:07 pm PDT #3828 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

"What curse will she put on Buffy? No ears?"

No body fat, if later seasons are anything to go by.

Connie Neil - Sep 19, 2006 6:48:03 pm PDT #3829 of 10469
brillig

"It's my first casting".

Fibber!!! No one ever called him on that, did they?

Narrator - Sep 20, 2006 4:16:31 am PDT #3830 of 10469
The evil is this way?

Topic!Cindy - I know not this LJ of which you speak. But tell amberlynne "Happy Birthday" for me!

Fibber!!! No one ever called him on that, did they?

Nope.

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