Gavin, ask yourself this question. What are you more afraid of, a giant murderous demon or me?

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


SailAweigh - Sep 19, 2006 5:46:58 pm PDT #3812 of 10469
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I've been kibitzing the W&P while watching Nip/Tuck and I'm like, how can Buffy be over already, I'm still watching N/T? Then I remembered, no commercials.


Amy - Sep 19, 2006 5:47:10 pm PDT #3813 of 10469
Because books.

But the living eyes of the trophy? Even creepier.

Except for how awfully fake it looked.

How did she get in there, exactly?


Atropa - Sep 19, 2006 5:47:18 pm PDT #3814 of 10469
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Every time there's a shot in Buffy's room, I look for Mr. Gordo.


beth b - Sep 19, 2006 5:48:09 pm PDT #3815 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think I've done the Buffy perky at 2am , for no good reason.


Amy - Sep 19, 2006 5:48:40 pm PDT #3816 of 10469
Because books.

Every time there's a shot in Buffy's room, I look for Mr. Gordo.

Awww.

Shallow fashion note: I loathed Buffy's hair in that last scene.

But I did love the exchange between her and Joyce.


beth b - Sep 19, 2006 5:50:16 pm PDT #3817 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

xander-shaped friend


beth b - Sep 19, 2006 5:55:01 pm PDT #3818 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

ha - one of the barbies is wearing gogo boots


Amy - Sep 19, 2006 5:56:00 pm PDT #3819 of 10469
Because books.

I love the way, even so early on, all roads lead to Innocence, and to Becoming.

Here, she's still trying for a "normal" life outside of slayerdom -- and learning that slayerdom is going to involve a lot more than vampires. Later we'll see the girl she was in L.A., before she was called -- and she's in no way that girl here. Witness her early assessment of Cordelia, her taking to Willow and Xander. One layer of innocence has already been stripped away -- or, alternately, one layer of wisdom has been gained.

Innocence strips away another layer, and Becoming leaves her with the truth -- what's left is her, her choices, her strength.

Even here, when she tells Joyce that she loves her, when she seems grateful that Joyce has her own life, and understands (in a vague, non-understanding but natural way) that Buffy is still discovering hers, she's realizing that she is "becoming" Buffy.


beth b - Sep 19, 2006 5:56:27 pm PDT #3820 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I did aerobics to the cheerleading music


DavidS - Sep 19, 2006 5:59:45 pm PDT #3821 of 10469
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I always felt that Joss drew from Spider-Man and from the same well as Andre Norton's YA books. That big juicy metaphor for adolesence alienation as being literally quite different.

But...

Even here, when she tells Joyce that she loves her, when she seems grateful that Joyce has her own life, and understands (in a vague, non-understanding but natural way) that Buffy is still discovering hers, she's realizing that she is "becoming" Buffy

This coming into personhood is just excellent storytelling. Not simply relying on the metaphor but telling the story of how somebody grows into themself, loses their innocence, gains their wisdom.