though he is witty and charming and adorable, was miserable and badly adjusted for most of his adolescence
Wasn't everyone though? If having a miserable adolescence can be blamed on bad parenting, then there are no good parents.
This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.
Buffy ,'Potential'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Jessica - Apr 08, 2005 9:40:13 am PDT #351 of 10457
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Lyra Jane - Apr 08, 2005 10:16:22 am PDT #352 of 10457
Up with the sun
If having a miserable adolescence can be blamed on bad parenting, then there are no good parents.
I'm not saying Kirsten was a bad parent. At all -- from what we've seen, she's a pretty good one. But if we're evaluating someone's parenting, looking at how their kids turned out doesn't strike me as being completely beside the point. I think ita's evaluation of Seth as messed up despite his parents is probably accurate, but it's worth asking the question.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 08, 2005 12:21:39 pm PDT #353 of 10457
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'd nominate Lois for the 2000s best mom, because most parents would have started drowning their children based on what she's had to face.
DebetEsse - Apr 08, 2005 12:27:42 pm PDT #354 of 10457
Woe to the fucking wicked.
If you're looking at dimensional parents, Helen on Joan of Arcadia is pretty good.
I thinking putting Lorelai as the best of the 2000s is a little...pessimistic wrt parents. I would be really uncomfortable with a mother looking up to her as a role model, especially as I don't think her tactic would have worked nearly so well with at least 80% of kids.
I like Kirsten and Sandy, though I don't feel like I have any idea of what kind of parents they were for most of Seth's life, which is a little weird. I just get the sense that their parenting has evolved more than most.
erikaj - Apr 08, 2005 12:28:55 pm PDT #355 of 10457
Always Anti-fascist!
Yeah, Lois is a tough chick. And she knows what it's like to have money problems and rubber checks all over town. My mom didn't quite wear her Stress Face all the time, but it looks like that, when she does.
Vortex - Apr 08, 2005 12:29:27 pm PDT #356 of 10457
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I think that Lorelai gets a lot of credit for the way Rory turned out, but a lot of that is just Rory's personality.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 08, 2005 1:33:22 pm PDT #357 of 10457
What is even happening?
If you're looking at dimensional parents, Helen on Joan of Arcadia is pretty good.
I agree.
Polter-Cow - Apr 08, 2005 1:47:42 pm PDT #358 of 10457
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
David Boreanaz's yearbook pictures. Seriously. Go look. They're great.
ChiKat - Apr 08, 2005 2:02:20 pm PDT #359 of 10457
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Connie Neil - Apr 08, 2005 2:03:47 pm PDT #360 of 10457
brillig
David Boreanaz's yearbook pictures.
No, he wasn't a jock.