Fair enough. I can see how Innocence would be a bad introductory ep. Without any backstory, the Buffy angst is so much less meaningful. And I rather think it's over-the-top myself (though I love it SO much) but I think that's partly because until he's on Angel, I just don't care about Angel.
Oh, God. Oh, God. My hair. My hair! The government gave me bad hair!
Cordelia ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Gris - Aug 04, 2006 3:29:50 pm PDT #3277 of 10464
Hey. New board.
Strega - Aug 04, 2006 4:19:45 pm PDT #3278 of 10464
My friend Niels cares little for Buffy, but several times he's insisted that we watch the "What does that do?" KABLOOEY! bit of Innocence. Like, 10 times in a row. It makes him laugh and laugh. I keep meaning to put it on loop and just record 10 minutes of that for him.
And then we watch the part where Angelus is all mean to Buffy, because I have the same reaction to "Love you, too. I'll call you."
Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2006 6:24:10 am PDT #3279 of 10464
What is even happening?
I came to Buffy in season 3, and didn't really know DB could act at all, until I finally got to see season 2, and his switch from Angel to Angelus. I'm not saying he's Olivier or anything, but after coming to know Angel on season 3 of BtVS, it was a pleasant surprise.
sumi - Aug 05, 2006 6:50:17 am PDT #3280 of 10464
Art Crawl!!!
Hey, the guy who played, let's see, Doyle's ex's fiance on Angel, the leader of the childnapping cult on Buffy and (I think) the son of the owner of the mudtown in Jayestown was on Psyche last night.
DCJensen - Aug 05, 2006 10:09:12 am PDT #3281 of 10464
All is well that ends in pizza.
Well the first two were played by Carlos Jacott. Carlos played the Alliance operative who shot kaylee in the original Serenity (pilot).
sumi - Aug 05, 2006 1:10:31 pm PDT #3282 of 10464
Art Crawl!!!
Oh, that's right -- that's who I meant. I saw him and thought -- he's got to be the baddie. (But, really -- he's not that famous.)
Also, Psyche had a "Numbers" reference.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 06, 2006 5:02:22 pm PDT #3283 of 10464
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Hey, the guy who played, let's see, Doyle's ex's fiance on Angel
Heh, I read that as "the guy who played...Doyle's ex fiance" and went "Whoa! I don't remeber the show being THAT gay."
§ ita § - Aug 06, 2006 8:23:09 pm PDT #3284 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm rewatching as I'm introducing a friend to Angel, and I'd forgotten how quickly out of the gate it was more gay than some gay porn. Ah, sweet Doyle.
I had to rewind the "maybe I'm a little bit attracted" scene for the friend to highlight the coat flare. "Aren't you at least a little bit gay now?"
He's not, yet. But perhaps by the end of season 2.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 07, 2006 5:32:40 am PDT #3285 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
If "Dead End" can't manage the job, he's unslashable.
§ ita § - Aug 07, 2006 8:18:13 am PDT #3286 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
By Tim, I think I can get him there. There are some things too big to fight.