It makes me cry just reading about you watching and crying. Glenn Quinn was a genius. It took me ages to realize that he played Becky's husband on Roseanne, or that he was actually Irish. And early Cordy. Sigh.
I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.
Angel ,'Chosen'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
libkitty - Apr 07, 2005 12:23:51 pm PDT #325 of 10457
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Lee - Apr 07, 2005 5:30:06 pm PDT #326 of 10457
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Hey, Mr. Trick was in Grosse Point Blank. I never realized that.
Gris - Apr 07, 2005 10:47:30 pm PDT #327 of 10457
Hey. New board.
Didn't feel like socializing, so watched "When She Was Bad" instead. I'm clearly going to have to watch, you know, ALL OF BUFFY again. Starting with Season 2 I guess.
It's kind of sad yet awesome that the show that forced me out of the deluded TV-is-bad lifestyle into my current TV-obsessed behavior is STILL the best thing I've ever seen.
Gus - Apr 07, 2005 11:56:38 pm PDT #328 of 10457
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
... the show that forced me out of the deluded TV-is-bad lifestyle into my current TV-obsessed behavior is STILL the best thing I've ever seen.
Seconded. What Nova said. If HBO ...wasn't..., I'd sell my tube.
erikaj - Apr 08, 2005 5:39:28 am PDT #329 of 10457
Always Anti-fascist!
Don't know if I'd do that, but practicallly, yeah. I'd need it to watch DVDs on, at least.
Kathy A - Apr 08, 2005 7:25:11 am PDT #330 of 10457
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
Last night, I was hanging out at the Barnes & Noble café, flipping through Ken Tucker’s (TV critic for Entertainment Weekly) new book, Kissing Bill O’Reilly, Roasting Miss Piggy, and came across his listing of the best and worst television mothers and fathers (one in each category from each decade). I can’t remember all his entries, but I loved his list of best moms:
1950s: Donna Stone (Donna Reed Show)
1960s: Aunt Bea (Andy Griffith Show)
1970s: Florida Evans (Good Times)
1980s: Elyse Keaton (Family Ties)
2000s: Lorelai Gilmore (Gilmore Girls)
And, of course, for the 1990s—Joyce Summers!
Not only that, but in the column on the portrayal of sex on network television (or the lack thereof), he said BtVS gave viewers the only believable treatment of sex in modern life, as opposed to the giggly teenage view most other shows provide.
Frankenbuddha - Apr 08, 2005 7:28:11 am PDT #331 of 10457
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
And, of course, for the 1990s—Joyce Summers!
Joyce had her flaws, but consdering she was a single mom raising onetwo daughters, she did good.
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 7:29:25 am PDT #332 of 10457
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh, god, I hate Lorelai's mothering. Ick.
Steph L. - Apr 08, 2005 7:40:18 am PDT #333 of 10457
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Oh, god, I hate Lorelai's mothering. Ick.
I was just about to post that. Way too co-dependent, shading into child-as-parent.
erikaj - Apr 08, 2005 7:40:19 am PDT #334 of 10457
Always Anti-fascist!
I think he's right...in most cases those women, though idealized in various ways, are 'real" in some ways too. I think if MSCL had stayed on, her mom could have had a shot at that...their mom-daughter stuff was pretty right-on, because the show didn't take a side, you know? Like in some teen shows, because we see through Angela's eyes, Angela would be right all the time. Or in some parent shows, Angela would be a gum-smacking "Whatever." PITA that we'd always see Mom "trying so hard" all the time with. But in real life, even good parents care about things for the wrong reasons(that fashion thing). And good teens get snitty and pull away for no reason they understand. My mom's like Joyce crossed with Lois in "Malcolm" And, wrod, on the BTVS sex-depicting.