Let me guess. We're in a hurry.

Inara ,'Serenity'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


P.M. Marc - Apr 01, 2005 3:58:09 pm PST #273 of 10457
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Someone had nifty thoughts on Buffy and weapons over in LJ land.


Sophia Brooks - Apr 01, 2005 4:35:54 pm PST #274 of 10457
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks for posting that Plei. She(he?) took a niggling thought about Buffy saying, in Restless, "I fight with weapons" and then reaching into a bag of mud, and made it coherant. I have always felt that line was VERy important.


Connie Neil - Apr 01, 2005 6:59:40 pm PST #275 of 10457
brillig

Saw "Cool Money" tonight. Wasn't too bad, and JM looks utterly scrumptious in a tux. I think he's let himself put a little weight on, because the cheekbones, while very visible, didn't look quite so hazardous.

And the scene where he's being charming while wearing glasses and a very nice suit was very pleasant.


Lee - Apr 01, 2005 7:19:15 pm PST #276 of 10457
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm watching Parting Gifts. This dude just pulled up on a motorcycle.

YUM.


libkitty - Apr 02, 2005 5:07:07 pm PST #277 of 10457
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I've just been watching the commentary on AtS s5. So, is it just me or is DB kind of full of himself in SP? Everyone else on the commentary seems to love his directing job too, so it may be just me. Actually, I didn't much like this ep, and I was really hoping that the commentary would redeem it for me. No such luck.


beekaytee - Apr 02, 2005 7:00:52 pm PST #278 of 10457
Compassionately intolerant

I'm with you libkitty. My thoughts exactly.

The whole thing went south for me while everyone was introducing [Hi, I'm ___ and I play ___] themselves and DB chimed in with "I'm DB and I'm the star of Angel."

Didn't much care for the episode either and was forcibly reminded of episodes of Wiseguy directed by Ken Wahl. Sometimes there is a reason that actors act and directors direct. Excepting, of course, multi-hyphenate wunderkinds. Which DB cannot claim to be, I fear.


Lee - Apr 02, 2005 8:48:06 pm PST #279 of 10457
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I've been working my way through S1 of Angel, and I have decided that even the horror of She is worth watching since it plays a part of the character development you see in Wesley in The Ring.


libkitty - Apr 02, 2005 9:16:30 pm PST #280 of 10457
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I'm so glad that I'm not alone on this, Beej. Listening to the next commentary, in the episode that will always be simply Cordy - S5, to me, I think that part of it may just be that CK likes DB so much, and, well, gushes. Somehow, it's not quite so annoying when the gushee is not also there and gushing along.

I'm not sure which episodes Wahl directed in Wiseguy, perhaps the first show I was really addicted to, but still before I became all fan crazy and following actual names of writers and directors and such. It's things like this that make me reconsider NetFlix, as rewatching would be lots of fun.

I think I need to rewatch S1, Perkins. I seem to only remember my favorite episodes. Weird. I may need to rewatch Firefly too. I don't think I've watched it at all for a couple of months. The horror!


beekaytee - Apr 03, 2005 4:28:14 am PDT #281 of 10457
Compassionately intolerant

Netflix is exactly how I got to rewatch Wiseguy which was my first real fan experience too!

The episodes Wahl directed were Reunion...the black and white one where he plays his own father. It was an interesting concept but it really drug in bits and the commentary (truly terrible) makes it clear that Ken's reverence for his own work kind of got in the way.

Another, and honestly the worst episode EVER, was called Romp and featured about a dozen repititions of the same scene of Vinny and two of his high school friends running round back alleys and jumping over fences as they try to figure out how to save a friend of theirs from a mob beating on the day of his wedding. They were supposedly having fun, (lotsa beer n broads) but the audience...okay, maybe only me...was bored into senselessness. It seemed to be Ken's homage to "Help" but without the good music or the humor. Yech.

I do highly recommend rewatching the Sonny Steelgrave arc. Damn, that was good teevee. And while I still really enjoy the Mel Proffit (Kevin Spacey) arc, it has not aged as well as some of the others. But still...Joan Severenece...so there ya go!

As with most of my favorite shows, it's the supporting cast that really does it for me. (Alexis, I'm lookin' at you, Honey) Wiseguy is a great example of that. The eps that feature Jonathan Banks and Jim Byrnes are true teevee gold.

Oh, and I'm totally with you on the CK/DB admiration thang. Not that I'm sure DB isn't a barrel of monkeys to work with (dead or no) but that, tragically, doesn't make him a great director. Maybe someday. Look at Clark Johnson...he turned out to be pretty good. And Dennis Dugan.

Hm. I wonder who the other series teevee actors who became successful directors might be.

Off to imdb...


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 03, 2005 4:34:18 am PDT #282 of 10457
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Personally I think DB did a really good job in his directorial debut. But I'll agree that waxing rhapsodic about one's own fabulousness in a media forum is a bit much. Perhaps he was just caught up in the excitement, as every firsthand report I've ever heard about him mentions what a great and down-to-earth guy he is?