I've just been watching the commentary on AtS s5. So, is it just me or is DB kind of full of himself in SP? Everyone else on the commentary seems to love his directing job too, so it may be just me. Actually, I didn't much like this ep, and I was really hoping that the commentary would redeem it for me. No such luck.

I'm with you libkitty. My thoughts exactly.

The whole thing went south for me while everyone was introducing [Hi, I'm ___ and I play ___] themselves and DB chimed in with "I'm DB and I'm the star of Angel."

Didn't much care for the episode either and was forcibly reminded of episodes of Wiseguy directed by Ken Wahl. Sometimes there is a reason that actors act and directors direct. Excepting, of course, multi-hyphenate wunderkinds. Which DB cannot claim to be, I fear.

I've been working my way through S1 of Angel, and I have decided that even the horror of She is worth watching since it plays a part of the character development you see in Wesley in The Ring.

I'm so glad that I'm not alone on this, Beej. Listening to the next commentary, in the episode that will always be simply Cordy - S5, to me, I think that part of it may just be that CK likes DB so much, and, well, gushes. Somehow, it's not quite so annoying when the gushee is not also there and gushing along.

I'm not sure which episodes Wahl directed in Wiseguy, perhaps the first show I was really addicted to, but still before I became all fan crazy and following actual names of writers and directors and such. It's things like this that make me reconsider NetFlix, as rewatching would be lots of fun.

I think I need to rewatch S1, Perkins. I seem to only remember my favorite episodes. Weird. I may need to rewatch Firefly too. I don't think I've watched it at all for a couple of months. The horror!

Netflix is exactly how I got to rewatch Wiseguy which was my first real fan experience too!

The episodes Wahl directed were Reunion...the black and white one where he plays his own father. It was an interesting concept but it really drug in bits and the commentary (truly terrible) makes it clear that Ken's reverence for his own work kind of got in the way.

Another, and honestly the worst episode EVER, was called Romp and featured about a dozen repititions of the same scene of Vinny and two of his high school friends running round back alleys and jumping over fences as they try to figure out how to save a friend of theirs from a mob beating on the day of his wedding. They were supposedly having fun, (lotsa beer n broads) but the audience...okay, maybe only me...was bored into senselessness. It seemed to be Ken's homage to "Help" but without the good music or the humor. Yech.

I do highly recommend rewatching the Sonny Steelgrave arc. Damn, that was good teevee. And while I still really enjoy the Mel Proffit (Kevin Spacey) arc, it has not aged as well as some of the others. But still...Joan Severenece...so there ya go!

As with most of my favorite shows, it's the supporting cast that really does it for me. (Alexis, I'm lookin' at you, Honey) Wiseguy is a great example of that. The eps that feature Jonathan Banks and Jim Byrnes are true teevee gold.

Oh, and I'm totally with you on the CK/DB admiration thang. Not that I'm sure DB isn't a barrel of monkeys to work with (dead or no) but that, tragically, doesn't make him a great director. Maybe someday. Look at Clark Johnson...he turned out to be pretty good. And Dennis Dugan.

Hm. I wonder who the other series teevee actors who became successful directors might be.

Off to imdb...

Personally I think DB did a really good job in his directorial debut. But I'll agree that waxing rhapsodic about one's own fabulousness in a media forum is a bit much. Perhaps he was just caught up in the excitement, as every firsthand report I've ever heard about him mentions what a great and down-to-earth guy he is?

I've heard that too, which is what made the commentary so jarring.

That's a charitable, and no doubt more accurate, deduction Matt. Maybe it was just the excitement of the moment.

And, to be honest, I have an unfortunate bias when it comes to commentaries. I want them to talk about what I want to hear about!

t /selfish fangirl

I loved John McTiernan's commentary on the Thomas Crown Affair...not because he made himself look good (he really didn't), but because it was so bleeding informative.

Which episode did DB direct? I'm totally memfaulting on it. (I assume the initials are SP, so I suppose I could just go check my season 5 set).

Perhaps he was just caught up in the excitement, as every firsthand report I've ever heard about him mentions what a great and down-to-earth guy he is?

Probably, as your firsthand reports match with the ones I saw last year from a friend who had family working on one of his projects.

(I assume the initials are SP, so I suppose I could just go check my season 5 set).

"Soul Purpose."